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Old 10-09-2008, 11:57 AM   #11
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Is everybody gay? Is this a Twilight Zone?
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Old 10-09-2008, 01:06 PM   #12
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I predict a backfire. People who didn't use it previously will start using it just to spite the commercials and the PC movement.
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Old 10-09-2008, 01:11 PM   #13
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I predict a backfire. People who didn't use it previously will start using it just to spite the commercials and the PC movement.
Possibly. But I also think that people who use it and don't know/realize it's offensive will think twice.
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Old 10-09-2008, 01:54 PM   #14
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For the record, I have no problem using "that's so gay" to describe something that is actually gay. E.g., the aforementioned Cher concert, quoting Bette Davis, fawning over a basketball player, or dressing like this:

I personally find saying "that's so gay" to mean something lame, stupid, or undesirable quite offensive. That said, I am well aware the Constitution does not guarantee us the right to not be offended, so I generally let it go unless it's someone I know and/or feel comfortable sharing my feelings with.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:11 PM   #15
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There's plenty of us non-gay Disney geeks out here in O'town. Trouble is, we aren't very successful at getting dates.

When I hear someone use "that's gay" or "that's retarded," my assumptions about their intelligence go waaaaay down! It's a perfect way to signify personal ignorance. I enjoyed the ads.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:48 PM   #16
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I hate the P.C. urge to get rid of That's So Gay.


Ya know what? I'm gay, and I say it all the time. And yes, I mean lame, when I say it. But "lame" won't do. Because I specfically mean the kind of lame that all sissified and prissy, overly sensitive and, sorry, no better word for it than "gay."


Funny how a word can have many meanings, because when I talk about people being gay, I mean that they are homosexual and nothing more.

Amazing how the English language can accommodate that kind of thing, yet it can.


And I try and respect my gay friends who hate the phrase by not saying it (so much) around them. But I feel an especial license to use the term to my heart's desire. And I can say "fag," too ... and even mean a cigarette depending on the context.



I can't see the ad campaign succeeding, and I think a slight backlash is more likely than not.



Yep, that means the ad campaign is gay.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:58 PM   #17
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I don't consider it to be P.C. to not say it. I consider it common sense and common decency.

I find the phrase disrespectful.

While we're at it, I don't consider people who are considered "sissies" or act in a "prissy" manner to be less than anyone else. I find those two terms to have misogynistic undertones that equate being/acting like a woman is something to be ashamed of.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:25 PM   #18
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I only use the phrase to describe the homophobic bastards at work who think they can harrass my gay coworkers.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:39 PM   #19
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I don't consider it to be P.C. to not say it. I consider it common sense and common decency.

I find the phrase disrespectful.

While we're at it, I don't consider people who are considered "sissies" or act in a "prissy" manner to be less than anyone else. I find those two terms to have misogynistic undertones that equate being/acting like a woman is something to be ashamed of.
Well, I haven't read the whole thread but I agree with that, I hate those terms and really try to get the kids to not say certain things. But, that applies to any stupid new phrase. I told them, if you say it for fun, it will become a habit and then when you don't want to say it, you won't be able to stop.

AND I hate the term sissie. I remember years ago, when my son was about 7 and my niece was probably 5, we were out and about and my son is a good kid, not a knucklehead, didn't run around, wasn't rambunctous {gotta love a good kid!} and she wanted to do something and he didn't and she called him a sissy. I was not happy, her mom scolded her but she still snickered. My son was offended. Young as he was. I think she learned the term from 'Powerpuff Girls'.

Prissy, eh, I never connected that, guess I just haven't heard everything {in that context, now when I hear it I will think twice about who is saying it and why }.
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:24 PM   #20
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Hmm, can't say I agree with "sissy" or "prissy" being demeaning to women. The concept is that you're a man acting like a woman. Is it an insult to men to say a woman is being "manly"? You're not saying being manly is a bad thing in itself.

Of course all the above stuff isn't good because it's judgemental etc, but I find them minor offenses, depending on context. If you're calling someone a sissy because they're making a big deal out of having to clean a toilet, then yeah, they're being a sissy. If you're calling them a sissy because they like art, then yeah, lame.
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