Katrina Response Mismanagement

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Here, lie down and take this pill. We'll have you chanting "universal health care for all!" in no time.

One more reason to "just say no" to drugs.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

What was the first reason?

[wendybeth]

"You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to Motorboat Cruiser again."

Lol!
Scaeagles, I'm all for personal responsibility and smaller govt as well, primarily because I think if we had a smaller central government perhaps we wouldn't get into so much mischief abroad. The situation is that we do not have a small government and things are set up a certain way. We have to set aside personal preferences for another time- the system that is currently in place failed, and in a very big way. I hope you do not live on a fault line, or in a flood zone, or near a volcano, or anywhere the non-existant global warming may impact in a negative way.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Thank you, Mr. President, for insuring that the original French settlement that became New Orleans was constructed on high ground hundreds of years before your birth. Way to plan ahead there, guy!

That Bush guy is a genius!

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

What was the first reason?

Waking up after a drug binge and seeing Ann Coulter in bed next to you.

*shudder*

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Scrooge mentions that no city can handle its own forced evacuation. How, then, are the feds to do it? The feds have no right to do it,

Wrong! Read the FEMA charter.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

and in fact weren't asked to help in the evacuation.

Why in the hell does the FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY need to be asked to assist with an EMERGENCY situation that they have been placed in charge of?

We had a national disaster looking us in the face, one that could have been avoided with some federal government investment that never came, one that threatened to cost hundreds of live at least, threatened to destroy 1/4 of our NATIONAL natural gas supply network, threatened to destroy 1/5 of our NATIONAL petroleum supply network and threatened to cripple the NATION'S LARGEST INLAND PORT.

And you prattle on about how it's a local issue?

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have a vague recollection that some help was requested 12 hours or so before it hit, but that's enough time?

Where do you get this stuff?

Blanco started the process of involving the fed on August 27th in a letter delivered to the President.

That's 2 days, Leo, not 12 hours.

The President actually declared a state of emergency on August 28th, a day later, clearing the way for FEMA to step in.

There is a very clear cut chain of events that must take place, and those events transpired, no matter how Bush's minions have tried to paint it.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I would guess using the literally hundreds of busses might have been a good way to start helping those who couldn't get out.

It would have. I'm sure state and local officials will answer for that.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I did hear New Orleans used to be above sea level until they built the heavy modern buildings and then it sank.

Las Vegas is also having some issues concerning heavy buildings. Their water table is rising from all the weight.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I don't think it was ever above sea level, but yes it was significantly closer to sea level. The whole "bowl" is nothing but silt deposited by thousands of years of flooding of the Mississippi. Once the city was built and the river leveed off, the silt began to compact and it was no longer replenished by regular floods.

[innerSpaceman]

Kurt Vonnegut said a very amusing, but possibly perceptive, thing on the Daily Show last night. Something to the effect that the Earth's immune system is trying its best to kill us. We are indeed, as agent Smith wisely noted, a virus.


When it comes right down to it, the flooding of New Orleans and the ravishment of the Gulf Coast is all due to human development in those areas. We can blame the government for not shoring up the levees, but those levees are part of the problem. There is no ultimate solution to our benefit for these problems. They are manmade, and nature will trump man in the end.

[jdramj]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Yeah, speak for yourself. I'm outnumbered enough around here already by all you liberal nutjobs.

"You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to scaeagles again."

Dearest scaeagles,

I am here for you. I share your GOP-wishing for smaller government beliefs.

I too believe, that blame, if it truely needs to be placed upon anyone, starts at the local government level, but it is not limited to just them and goes uphill as well. It truely saddened me to see the pictures of the buses as they sat flooded over. What a vital lifeline those could have been, and what future problems could have been avoided if utilized from the start, along with other local issues.

I rarely have a good way about my arguing otherwise I would gladly join up in arms with you and defend against these "liberal nutjobs" (hehe he said nut jobs). Basically, I suck at getting my point accross and rarley attempt it for fear of looking like I really suck at this. (hehe I said suck-twice).

Just know you are not alone ,

Best wishes,

jdramj
(now ducking....hehe dodging bullets)

[Nephythys]

I just love one of the newest excuses for the buses- that Nagin can't get people out to work on a sunny day, they certainly won't work when a hurricane is coming.

According to Nagin- no one would drive the buses- uh huh, all those people and NONE of them would drive? What, is there a bus union that keeps non-union people from driving to get away from a hurricane?

Huh?