The Dark Knight - [spoilers ahead, ye be warned] - Page 21

innerSpaceman · 07-28-2008, 03:43 PM

I'm not done hijacking. Things like Murdock's suicide and Nearer My God to Thee are NOT things Cameron made up. There's more chance they're legend as opposed to fact ... but the real facts are NO ONE WHO KNOWS MADE IT OUT ALIVE. So these are things shrouded in the mist of history. It was perfectly legit for Cameron to use the more dramatic possibilities of the possible events, reported by witnesses (though perhaps lacking credibility).

Fudging the exact nationality and career paths of a couple of below-minor characters is also not historical sacrelige.

For that matter, no one knows the Strauss's really died in bed-enbrace together. No one was there. No one knows the captain met his doom alone on the bridge. He just disappeared at one point (and various legends have him doing various things), but it's widely assumed ... and only assumed he died alone on the bridge when it went down.

Can you fault Cameron for using these two elements? They are more likely, but no more "confirmed" than Murdoch not shooting himself, and the band playing Autumn as their final number.

JWBear · 07-28-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I'm not done hijacking. Things like Murdock's suicide and Nearer My God to Thee are NOT things Cameron made up. There's more chance they're legend as opposed to fact ... but the real facts are NO ONE WHO KNOWS MADE IT OUT ALIVE. So these are things shrouded in the mist of history. It was perfectly legit for Cameron to use the more dramatic possibilities of the possible events, reported by witnesses (though perhaps lacking credibility).

Fudging the exact nationality and career paths of a couple of below-minor characters is also not historical sacrelige.

For that matter, no one knows the Strauss's really died in bed-enbrace together. No one was there. No one knows the captain met his doom alone on the bridge. He just disappeared at one point (and various legends have him doing various things), but it's widely assumed ... and only assumed he died alone on the bridge when it went down.

Can you fault Cameron for using these two elements? They are more likely, but no more "confirmed" than Murdoch not shooting himself, and the band playing Autumn as their final number.

My response is here.

innerSpaceman · 07-28-2008, 09:17 PM

ok, fine. What other film besides Batman can we talk about here now?

JWBear · 07-28-2008, 09:50 PM

The Women?

lashbear · 07-28-2008, 10:37 PM

We really need a swank viewing of "The Women" at JWBear's place when I'm there...

JWBear · 07-29-2008, 08:32 AM

You're on!

Chernabog · 07-29-2008, 08:39 AM

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You're on!

Or we could buy a portable TV and watch it on a train to Reno

Gemini Cricket · 07-29-2008, 08:40 AM

On the train to Reno...

JWBear · 07-29-2008, 09:35 AM

Drink up, dearie!

innerSpaceman · 07-29-2008, 10:13 AM

Oh no, not the quotathon again!!!

I just noticed I don't have any Batman movies on DVD, while I do have The Women. That must be fixed. As soon at TDK comes out, I'm gonna get Burton's Batman and Batman Returns, plus Nolans Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. All films with flaws, but fun Batman flix.

07-28-2008, 03:43 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I'm not done hijacking. Things like Murdock's suicide and Nearer My God to Thee are NOT things Cameron made up. There's more chance they're legend as opposed to fact ... but the real facts are NO ONE WHO KNOWS MADE IT OUT ALIVE. So these are things shrouded in the mist of history. It was perfectly legit for Cameron to use the more dramatic possibilities of the possible events, reported by witnesses (though perhaps lacking credibility). Fudging the exact nationality and career paths of a couple of below-minor characters is also not historical sacrelige. For that matter, no one knows the Strauss's really died in bed-enbrace together. No one was there. No one knows the captain met his doom alone on the bridge. He just disappeared at one point (and various legends have him doing various things), but it's widely assumed ... and only assumed he died alone on the bridge when it went down. Can you fault Cameron for using these two elements? They are more likely, but no more "confirmed" than Murdoch not shooting himself, and the band playing Autumn as their final number.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	ok, fine. What other film besides Batman can we talk about here now?
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	You're on! __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Drink up, dearie! __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh no, not the quotathon again!!! I just noticed I don't have any Batman movies on DVD, while I do have The Women. That must be fixed. As soon at TDK comes out, I'm gonna get Burton's Batman and Batman Returns, plus Nolans Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. All films with flaws, but fun Batman flix.
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