Republican National Convention '08 - Page 21

sleepyjeff · 09-06-2008, 01:22 PM

What does "small town" mean when Biden says it then(and he says it a lot)???

scaeagles · 09-06-2008, 02:01 PM

Something completely different, obviously.

wendybeth · 09-07-2008, 11:45 AM

Heh heh....just ran across this at the Huffington Post blog: ( NSFW- a wee bit o' foul language)

Levi Johnston's Convention Diary

alphabassettgrrl · 09-07-2008, 12:44 PM

I like it!

innerSpaceman · 09-07-2008, 04:48 PM

Hahaha, that was teh awesome.

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-07-2008, 06:52 PM

One of the repeating themes I heard in RNC speeches was that we are winning in Iraq, that the surge fixed it, that things are going very well....

...but it looks like Petraeus doesn't agree. I knew "the surge" wouldn't be temporary...

innerSpaceman · 09-07-2008, 07:31 PM

I concede the Republicans win on the Surge. Very few Americans are paying enough attention to the situation in Iraq to discern the difference between cause and effect, timing and happenstance.

So violence is down and it happened at the same time as the Surge. The Republicans lucked out on this, and there's nothing we can do about it.

Fortunately, most progressives and Dems also have ceased paying attention to Iraq ... so Barack can change the subject easily enough to the suckfest that is America in the 21st Century.

scaeagles · 09-07-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

So violence is down and it happened at the same time as the Surge. The Republicans lucked out on this, and there's nothing we can do about it.

???

The violence is down because of the surge. The reason Petraeus wants to leave the troops there longer is because lowering troop levels - as in the opposite of the surge - could result in an increase in violence. It was certainly not luck....it was the administration finally listening to what commanders were asking for and McCain was for a couple years before it happened.

I pay very close attention, and I think I might just know about cause and effect and timing vs. happenstance. Just because there is disagreement doesn't mean it is due to ignorance on the opposite side of yours.

And for the first time, McCain has a measurable lead. Zogby has him up 4, Gallup has him up 3, and USAToday has him up 10 (that's likely voters....I believe the other two were registered). More importantly, the base of McCain is now excited....I have actually become a solid McCain supporter. He still wouldn't have been my first choice, but I am no longer reluctant to vote for him.

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-07-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have actually become a solid McCain supporter. He still wouldn't have been my first choice, but I am no longer reluctant to vote for him.

I'd be interested to know why.

Yes, more troops means less violence. So the surge is forever, eh?

scaeagles · 09-08-2008, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'd be interested to know why.

Yes, more troops means less violence. So the surge is forever, eh?

No. The Anbar province was recently turned over to Iraqis to head up operations, but they'll need time with us there as backup.

No doubt it isn't happening as fast as anyone would like (it being going under complete Iraqi bontrol). But it is happening.

I'll answer the McCain question when I have a bit more time.

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I concede the Republicans win on the Surge. Very few Americans are paying enough attention to the situation in Iraq to discern the difference between cause and effect, timing and happenstance. So violence is down and it happened at the same time as the Surge. The Republicans lucked out on this, and there's nothing we can do about it. Fortunately, most progressives and Dems also have ceased paying attention to Iraq ... so Barack can change the subject easily enough to the suckfest that is America in the 21st Century.
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