Yes, we can. - Page 217

Gemini Cricket · 10-09-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Except Gore and Kerry never had a lead like this.

Obama's lead has me hopeful but I'm still hesitant to rejoice just yet...

flippyshark · 10-09-2008, 08:40 PM

Funny you should mention this. I was just on the phone with my Mom a few hours ago, and she went to a Women For McCain party (in Pennsylvania) a couple of days ago. She is a lifelong Republican, but she was very put off by the ridiculous and baseless barrage of Muslim rumors and fearmongering. When she went to leave, she was offered some signs to put in her yard, and she turned them down. Now, she is much less certain of how she wants to vote. (She is also no fan of Palin, and has been less than thrilled with the McCain of the last couple of weeks.)

I tried ever so gently to nudge her over to the Obama side, but she just sighed and said, "I don't know what I'm going to do." She then said she wishes she could vote for Bill Cosby.

Cadaverous Pallor · 10-09-2008, 10:30 PM

If a 90% chance of victory isn't enough to make you feel better, I don't know what is.

It's not so much Yes We Can as Yes We Are...

Gemini Cricket · 10-09-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

If a 90% chance of victory isn't enough to make you feel better, I don't know what is.

It's not so much Yes We Can as Yes We Are...

I hear ya. But I'll be completely happy when his win is official.

innerSpaceman · 10-09-2008, 11:26 PM

Well you already voted. Does it seem more unnerving because now you just have to wait until everybody else does?

Morrigoon · 10-10-2008, 09:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-__IdzH1b8

scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 07:20 AM

Here is a great break down of why I do not trust Obama and his promised tax cuts. Much of what he calls a tax cut he only can because he redefines what a tax cut is.

scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 07:39 AM

I will make another post that I am immensely concerned about the amount of voter registration fraud, particularly with the group ACORN.

Also, has anyone else seen the youtube video of the people marching through Manhattan carrying McCain/Palin signs? For the party of tolerance and acceptance, there sure were a whole lot of gestures and words that did not exude tolerance or acceptance of opposing view points.

flippyshark · 10-13-2008, 07:59 AM

I agree that the rude gestures and booing are stupid and regrettable, and I wish all dems were classy people. But nobody gets to swing this charge with a clean conscience. (Which party was shouting "traitor" and "kill him" last week?) Partisan bickering is annoying, non productive, and brings out the petty in people. Just look at this thread!

I haven't done enough homework on ACORN, but at least in theory, it sounds like a group that needs to exist. Minorities and people in poor neighborhoods have historically been given extremely shabby treatment at the polls. I agree, there is no room in this or any election for voter fraud, and I don't think the dems would need to resort to that this year anyway. (stifling impulse to say "unlike the repubs back in 2000" - okay, technically not stifling it at all, but using comical parenthetical aside to toss an easy brickbat.)

If you have any links to solid info on ACORN malfeasance, preferably from a non-partisan source, I'd read it over. If there really is widespread registering of dead peoples names and transporting of persons across state or county lines for voter fraud happening, it is obviously in the best interests of dems to put a stop to it. On the other hand, if there is only rumor and partisan desperation behind it, well, my eyes can't roll enough.

Edited to add - And if your only purpose in bringing these matters up is to basically say "See, you democrats are hypocrites and bad people," then shame on you, and find another fricking hobby. (said affectionately - I'm a Leo fan.)

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark

Minorities and people in poor neighborhoods have historically been given extremely shabby treatment at the polls.

And Republicans will go to great lengths to keep it that way. Smears and lies, again, being the favorite tactic of the Republican Party.

10-09-2008, 08:40 PM	#2
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	Funny you should mention this. I was just on the phone with my Mom a few hours ago, and she went to a Women For McCain party (in Pennsylvania) a couple of days ago. She is a lifelong Republican, but she was very put off by the ridiculous and baseless barrage of Muslim rumors and fearmongering. When she went to leave, she was offered some signs to put in her yard, and she turned them down. Now, she is much less certain of how she wants to vote. (She is also no fan of Palin, and has been less than thrilled with the McCain of the last couple of weeks.) I tried ever so gently to nudge her over to the Obama side, but she just sighed and said, "I don't know what I'm going to do." She then said she wishes she could vote for Bill Cosby.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	If a 90% chance of victory isn't enough to make you feel better, I don't know what is. It's not so much Yes We Can as Yes We Are... __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Well you already voted. Does it seem more unnerving because now you just have to wait until everybody else does?
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-__IdzH1b8 __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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10-13-2008, 07:20 AM	#7
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Here is a great break down of why I do not trust Obama and his promised tax cuts. Much of what he calls a tax cut he only can because he redefines what a tax cut is.
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10-13-2008, 07:39 AM	#8
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I will make another post that I am immensely concerned about the amount of voter registration fraud, particularly with the group ACORN. Also, has anyone else seen the youtube video of the people marching through Manhattan carrying McCain/Palin signs? For the party of tolerance and acceptance, there sure were a whole lot of gestures and words that did not exude tolerance or acceptance of opposing view points.
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10-13-2008, 07:59 AM	#9
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	I agree that the rude gestures and booing are stupid and regrettable, and I wish all dems were classy people. But nobody gets to swing this charge with a clean conscience. (Which party was shouting "traitor" and "kill him" last week?) Partisan bickering is annoying, non productive, and brings out the petty in people. Just look at this thread! I haven't done enough homework on ACORN, but at least in theory, it sounds like a group that needs to exist. Minorities and people in poor neighborhoods have historically been given extremely shabby treatment at the polls. I agree, there is no room in this or any election for voter fraud, and I don't think the dems would need to resort to that this year anyway. (stifling impulse to say "unlike the repubs back in 2000" - okay, technically not stifling it at all, but using comical parenthetical aside to toss an easy brickbat.) If you have any links to solid info on ACORN malfeasance, preferably from a non-partisan source, I'd read it over. If there really is widespread registering of dead peoples names and transporting of persons across state or county lines for voter fraud happening, it is obviously in the best interests of dems to put a stop to it. On the other hand, if there is only rumor and partisan desperation behind it, well, my eyes can't roll enough. Edited to add - And if your only purpose in bringing these matters up is to basically say "See, you democrats are hypocrites and bad people," then shame on you, and find another fricking hobby. (said affectionately - I'm a Leo fan.) Last edited by flippyshark : 10-13-2008 at 08:06 AM.
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