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scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

And Republicans will go to great lengths to keep it that way. Smears and lies, again, being the favorite tactic of the Republican Party.

Voter fraud is one of the favorite tactics of dems....cheating, smearing, lieing....all democrat party strategies.

wendybeth · 10-13-2008, 08:50 AM

Leo must have read the latest poll numbers.

(I know I commit voter fraud on a daily basis. I get up and the first thing I say to myself is "Wendy, have you committed your voter fraud today?" I have to remind myself to stay on task, because I'm so busy having abortions and sneaking terrorists across the border. Being a Dem is hard work!)

Moonliner · 10-13-2008, 09:01 AM

Vote fraud is a very serious issue, even more so with all these ****ing electronic voting systems. They raise the specter of a stolen election like nothing else in the history of our democracy. I'm fairly sure I don't want our election process to become one of who the best hackers support. Especially since BOTH parties have been clearly shown to have members not above stealing an election.

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Voter fraud is one of the favorite tactics of dems....cheating, smearing, lieing....all democrat party strategies.

Actually... In the last two presidential elections there was vastly more voter fraud (and blatant voter suppression) on the part of the Republicans. The old "Your friend shoplifted, so you have to let me commit armed robbery" defense is old, tired, and just plain indefensible.

The massive amounts of dirty tricks, lies, corruption, hypocrisy, and just plain nastiness on the part of the Republicans over the last eight years - vastly outnumbering the Democrats by orders of magnitude - have made me lose any trust or support for Republicans I ever had. I've voted for candidates from both parties equally in the past. No more. I've moved from a moderate to a staunch Democrat now. You can thank your party for that.

scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Actually... In the last two presidential elections there was vastly more voter fraud (and blatant voter suppression) on the part of the Republicans. The old "Your friend shoplifted, so you have to let me commit armed robbery" defense is old, tired, and just plain indefensible.

Excuse me.....excuse me. No, no, no. I brought up a point, and I believe it was YOU, sir, that offered up a deflection away from crooked dems to make it a republican thing in this context. YOU are the one using the defense that you so condescendingly accuse me of.

innerSpaceman · 10-13-2008, 08:18 AM

Voter REGISTRATION fraud is not the same as voter fraud. Since money is paid for every registred name, there are AUTOMATICALLY going to be fraudulent acts commited by every party in every state in every country on every planet that pays for registered names.

But since these fictitious people do not show up to VOTE, no voter fraud is committed.

In other words ... YAWN.

innerSpaceman · 10-13-2008, 08:20 AM

Oh, and I don't trust Obama's or ANY candidate's promised tax cuts. Only a fool would believe such a thing after they've experienced more than 2 presidential elections in their lives ... and only an absolute IDIOT would believe there are going to be tax cuts when every single American household owes $480,000 in national debt to be paid, mostly to the Chinese, in the soon to be worthless dollar.

JWBear · 10-13-2008, 08:35 AM

Oh, and Leo... If you think I'm voting for Obama because of his tax plan, or that I really give a rats ass about it at this point, then you would be sadly mistaken.

scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 08:44 AM

You know, when I change the subject when someone points out something about the republican party or McCain by pointing out something the dems do wrong, I am usually chastized for it. But no, flippy, I didn't bring those things up for that reason....I brought them up because they are concerning.

My point has nothing to do with what McCain is or isn't doing....my point is that Obama is deliberately misrepresenting and not telling the truth regarding his tax plan. I suppose if the Republicans redefined rich as anyone with a net worth over 10 billion they could say they have never supported tax cuts for the wealthy. I don't care if you support Obama or not whether all or in part due to his tax cuts. The fact is he is LIEING specifically to sway undecided voters. As tax policy is a big, big point for a large number of voters, it is no doubt intentional. I recall the Obama tax cut link to calculate the tax cut you'll get if Obama is elected....something tells me that a lot of people find it important, particularly with the hits Obama is giving McCain on the "tax cuts for the wealthy" and the responses to those here.

Regarding voter fraud - the investigations are serious and ongoing into ACORN. I also believe that being regiestered to vote in more than one place is a crime. I could be mistaken, and if so, I apologize.

scaeagles · 10-13-2008, 08:59 AM

Actually, the latest poll numbers are closing the gap. I doubt it will be enough, but they are narrowing.

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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Vote fraud is a very serious issue, even more so with all these ****ing electronic voting systems. They raise the specter of a stolen election like nothing else in the history of our democracy. I'm fairly sure I don't want our election process to become one of who the best hackers support. Especially since BOTH parties have been clearly shown to have members not above stealing an election. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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10-13-2008, 08:18 AM	#6
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Voter REGISTRATION fraud is not the same as voter fraud. Since money is paid for every registred name, there are AUTOMATICALLY going to be fraudulent acts commited by every party in every state in every country on every planet that pays for registered names. But since these fictitious people do not show up to VOTE, no voter fraud is committed. In other words ... YAWN.
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10-13-2008, 08:20 AM	#7
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh, and I don't trust Obama's or ANY candidate's promised tax cuts. Only a fool would believe such a thing after they've experienced more than 2 presidential elections in their lives ... and only an absolute IDIOT would believe there are going to be tax cuts when every single American household owes $480,000 in national debt to be paid, mostly to the Chinese, in the soon to be worthless dollar.
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10-13-2008, 08:35 AM	#8
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Oh, and Leo... If you think I'm voting for Obama because of his tax plan, or that I really give a rats ass about it at this point, then you would be sadly mistaken. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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10-13-2008, 08:44 AM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	You know, when I change the subject when someone points out something about the republican party or McCain by pointing out something the dems do wrong, I am usually chastized for it. But no, flippy, I didn't bring those things up for that reason....I brought them up because they are concerning. My point has nothing to do with what McCain is or isn't doing....my point is that Obama is deliberately misrepresenting and not telling the truth regarding his tax plan. I suppose if the Republicans redefined rich as anyone with a net worth over 10 billion they could say they have never supported tax cuts for the wealthy. I don't care if you support Obama or not whether all or in part due to his tax cuts. The fact is he is LIEING specifically to sway undecided voters. As tax policy is a big, big point for a large number of voters, it is no doubt intentional. I recall the Obama tax cut link to calculate the tax cut you'll get if Obama is elected....something tells me that a lot of people find it important, particularly with the hits Obama is giving McCain on the "tax cuts for the wealthy" and the responses to those here. Regarding voter fraud - the investigations are serious and ongoing into ACORN. I also believe that being regiestered to vote in more than one place is a crime. I could be mistaken, and if so, I apologize.
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10-13-2008, 08:59 AM	#10
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Actually, the latest poll numbers are closing the gap. I doubt it will be enough, but they are narrowing.
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