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Old 08-29-2008, 12:27 PM   #211
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BDBopper, what about her excites them?
Them (We) see Palin as one of us, one of growing few trying to reform the Republican Party away from the corrupt country-club cronyism that is rampent in the establishment We are trying to bring the party back to the people, caring for them practicing what Mike calls "Vertical Politics" Palin is one of a list of people we hoped would be considered (including Huckabee, Louisiana Governor, Bobby Jindal, former Maryland Lt. Governor Michale Steele, and others). If you want to pin them down as anything they are Conservative Populists.

As a note of reference most of us are young and very new to politics. We voted for and supported Mike Huckabee for the same reasons others in our generation vote for and support Barack Obama. Our political ideology is just a bit different. However we all voted for change.

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Old 08-29-2008, 12:31 PM   #212
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I might say that should a democrat woman with children (downs syndrome or not) be attacked by the right for being the VP candidate because of that there would be hell to pay.
Perhaps. I still think it is a valid question though. If you have a special needs infant at home, and you are going to spend the next few months in the busiest, most hectic atmosphere one can imagine, it isn't such a stretch to consider that maybe the child is going to have substantially less parental interaction. And when you are running on a platform of family values, I think it is only natural that it raise a few eyebrows.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:34 PM   #213
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Oh, I agree. Completely. I just think this an example of because she's a republican it's OK to say it. If a republican dared say this about a dem female they would be attacked.
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Perhaps. I still think it is a valid question though. If you have a special needs infant at home, and you are going to spend the next few months in the busiest, most hectic atmosphere one can imagine, it isn't such a stretch to consider that maybe the child is going to have substantially less parental interaction.
Also, to a candidate for a party whose platform touts Christian family values, it seems strangely hypocritical to be a pro-life magnet by bringing a special needs child into the world despite the diagnosis, and then entering that sort of environment. Who is taking care of the baby? It is 4 months old -- I'd feel a lot differently if the child was older.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:38 PM   #215
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I remember Hllary in a debate with....whomever it was for NY Senator, and the media played up quite a bit when the male opponent appeared to be to harsh on her.

I thought that was crap then and it will be crap now should it be played.
Agreed. It's pathetic that the media focuses in on the male being harsh to the female when they wouldn't bat an eye if they were both men. If they were both women it'd be a declared a cat fight or bitch fest. If women are going to be in politics they better have "tough skin".
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Something tells me the family will certainly be moving to Washington and that Dad will become a stay home dad....but I certainly don't know. I don't have time as a father of three non-special needs kids with just a normal job to give them all the attention they need/deserve, so I understand the argument wholeheartedly. I just think ANY criticism coming from a republican to a dem in the same situation would result in an uproar of how the republicans didn't understand.
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If they were both women it'd be a declared a cat fight or bitch fest. If women are going to be in politics they better have "tough skin".
Though you have to admit, it would be fun seeing Hilary Clinton and Elizabeth Dole pulling each others hair and tearing off each others smart pantsuits.

And that's when the mud started to pour in the ring... wooooooohooooo
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I might say that should a democrat woman with children (downs syndrome or not) be attacked by the right for being the VP candidate because of that there would be hell to pay.
The Republican party (or its members) are cite family values and the lack thereof for the decline of society. They impression given is that one parent should stay at home with the children. Having this VP candidate with young children and a husband who works comes across as hypocritical of their "agenda".

I don't recall the Democratic party citing the same thing when it comes to family values. It seems the Democratic party is content with parents who love their children and make ends meet even if that means having a 2 parent working household.
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Though you have to admit, it would be fun seeing Hilary Clinton and Elizabeth Dole pulling each others hair and tearing off each others smart pantsuits.

And that's when the mud started to pour in the ring... wooooooohooooo
Um ew. But whatever floats your boat dude...




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Old 08-29-2008, 12:45 PM   #220
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I could see a spin (definitely spin) that there's a difference between inexperience as VP and inexperience as President.
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