CA Supreme Court to rule on Gay Marriage today (5/15) at 10:00am

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, I almost want to start a new thread, and not have it be in the Daily Grind ... because it would only be quasi-political at most.


But Chernabog, Gemini Cricket and I are involved with this Love, Honor, Cherish group ... and it's less a political thing than an ongoing fun event thing that we'd love to invite the LoT swankers to.



Yeah, these events are all going to be fundraisers ... but you might as well get used to the fact that the three of us ARE going to (politely) hit you up for money between now and November. And you SHOULD donate generously ... but you don't have to do so multiple times ... and that shouldn't stop you from attending multiples of the fun events put on by L.H.C. - - to have a good time while helping our worthy cause with even just your good-time participation. Does that make sense?


First up ... this coming Sunday ...




7582 Mullholland Drive, LA 90046. Noon to 5pm.

This is gonna be a lot of fun ... and though it's been advertised a bit around town ... well, it would be silly if it's just a party for the folks who meet every Tuesday at Love, Honor, Cherish. Nope, we want all our friends to come ... so Gemini Cricket, Chernabog and I cordially invite you!



There won't be a hard sell to give money (though it's $25 at the door). But you might as well get used to being pitched to on this issue. This is, as you might imagine, a vital concern for the three of us. As for me, I've never been moved before to donate time and energy to a cause. That's shameful of me, I know. The most I ever did to protest the Iraq war was to honk in support as I drove past huge demonstrations of peace-loving Americans.

But this one gets me where I live. Because it's not about where I live, or how I work ... it goes to the very heart of me being gay, because it's about who I love. Quite differnent from housing discrimination or workplace discrimination .... marriage discrimination is an assault on MY love. So I feel it in my heart most strongly.


And now that justice has been done at long last in California, it kills me to think it may get snatched away so quickly.

But the Fundies are against us, and the Mormons are against us, and even Heinz Ketchup is against us!!





So please show your support by Having Fun With Us ... and come to the Pool Party or some of the other events that will be happening. Yeah, we'll have our hand out ... but you needn't grease our palms any more often or more generously than you are moved to.

[blueerica]

In other words, we ought to be able to do as we please provided our actions don't detract from others' quality of life. If I, like some ill-informed right-wingers, believed same-sex marriage would unavoidably lead to hundreds of gays and lesbians having a Roman orgy on my kitchen floor, I might rethink my stance on the subject.

Probably my favorite quote of the day.

From here.

*sigh*

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by blueerica

Probably my favorite quote of the day.

From here.

*sigh*

From the article:

According to Mormon doctrine, Homosexual is not a noun...

According to my doctrine, the LDS leadership is not human.

[innerSpaceman]

Can't we get a ballot initiative to define religion as a superstitious cult ... just to show them what it's like to have other people stick their nose in their business where it doesn't belong?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Can't we get a ballot initiative to define religion as a superstitious cult ... just to show them what it's like to have other people stick their nose in their business where it doesn't belong?

Fighting intolerance with intolerance, blech, almost not even funny.

[innerSpaceman]

Sometimes empathy must be forced where it is not naturally felt.

Do you think the fundies have a clue that so many Americans feel their farcical religious doctrines are the danger to the fabric of society? Perhaps if some people tried to make it unconstitutional, they'd understand what it means to mind your own freaking business, whether your moral code agrees with other people's or not.

[Alex]

I just wonder if it would do much to change anybody's minds or just further boost the anti-gay crowd into voting so that they can ensure trouncing this one...and oh since they're in the booth they might as well vote against gay marriage.

They know they are being intolerant. They think it is a correct and proper intolerance. Such a retaliatory measure wouldn't phase them. To them it would be just as silly as if child rapists gathered together and proposed a measure to make consensual sex between adults illegal.

[Pirate Bill]

Does anybody watch 30 Days?

Produced and hosted by Morgan Spurlock, the guy that made Super Size Me. The premise of the show is for someone to live 30 days in someone else's shoes. Either someone with views different from their own or to try something different and controversial.

The last episode was about gay couples adopting. A Mormon woman (with the opinion that gays should not be allowed to adopt) moved in with a family consisting of 2 gay men with 3 adopted boys. The show seems to make an attempt to give equal treatment to both sides of each issue. But in this episode I think both sides were equally not adequately represented. I suppose that makes it fair, but it fell short of what I think it could have been.

They brought up a few pros and cons and talked to people "in the know" of each argument but spent the majority of the time just showing the difficulty that both sides have in discussing the issue.

Anyway, aside from the argument of immorality brought up by those who oppose gay marriage, I think adoption rights is another big issue that certainly comes up should gay partners be granted legal married status.

I feel like I understand and can empathize with both sides of the issue. However I think I still fall on the side of less government regulation. I don't think the government should be in the marriage business, or even the adoption business.

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, I wonder if an epsiode could really shoot for a Live-in-Their-Shoes experiment ... have a straight man be gay for 30 days. Watch him try every day for a month to "choose" his sexuality, as all us homos are supposed to be able to do.


And, no, Alex, that's no more a real suggestion for programming as my one about unconstitutional religiousity was an actual proscription for political strategy.


Thanks for pointing out there'd be a backlash if I managed to go out and get the signatures needed to put that on the ballot. Whew, now I won't bother.




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On a more serious note, I'm wondering if there will be a significant backlash from the Supreme Court ruling that affects the election. I believe there was quite a backlash in Massachusetts, and it took nearly two years for widespread acceptance of gay marriage to take hold in that state.




We don't have that much time.

[Gemini Cricket]

Pirate Bill ~
I haven't seen the episode, but GLAAD issued a statement about it.

Regrettably, the episode also features a defamatory statement by Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council, an anti-gay activist organization, who claims: "Homosexuality is associated with higher rates of sexual promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, mental illness, substance abuse, domestic violence, and child sexual abuse, and those are all reasons for us to be concerned about placing children into that kind of setting." While there is no credible scientific research that backs Sprigg’s claim - and much that disputes it - the episode presents his assertion as if it were fact and offers no credible social science experts or child health authorities to challenge Sprigg’s assertion. Indeed, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychological Association, the Child Welfare League of America, and many other child health and social services authorities who support parenting by qualified lesbian and gay parents dispute Sprigg’s claim.

Source

I think letting his statement stand alone makes it sound like fact. I think a differing opinion from someone else should have been presented also.

I also don't agree with some gay activists who say the FX Network as a whole is anti-gay. Nip/Tuck is tre gay if you ask me.