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[bewitched]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Wait, when we see Locke with the New Plane people, they are on the beach, with the canoes. I'm totally lost as to when we saw the canoes there before, timewise, but it's definitely not post-Losties camp.

It was in the episode when Sawyer saw Kate and Claire when Claire was giving birth. Remember, they walked back to beach and it was all wrecked and there were a couple of canoes with an Ajira Airways water bottle. They took the canoes part of the way to the Orchid station and got shot at from another canoe.

Looking on IMDB, it was the 4th episode this season, "The Little Prince"

eta: Since it was when they were still time jumping, it was a post Losties camp, we just didn't know (at the time) that it was the Ajira camp...we just assumed it was the Oceanic camp that had been trashed (or at least I did). And personally, I think Locke (and Ben) are current time, as is the Ajira camp.

[bewitched]

A review I just read got me thinking (it was about how various seasons seem to be the yin/yang of each other)...and I may be on a totally wrong path...but does Milton's Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained resonate with anyone else? I don't want to really flesh out my thoughts yet since neither book is fresh enough in my mind.

Synopsis:

Here.

And here.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Also, The O6 ended up in 1977 with Saywer (excuse me... "LaFleur") et al. Ben and Locke did not. Interesting.

I figured that much out last week. There's no way Jin arrives in a pristine VW bus and a pristine Dharma jumpsuit unless they are back in time.

Though now that I think about it, my initial theory that being sufficiently injured prevents you from time traveling is shaky, what with Jin bouncing around while unconscious. So there's got to be some other explanation for Ben not making the jump.

Of course, we only know about Kate, Hurley, and Jack. No telling yet where Sun and Sayid are. Am I missing anyone else from the plane?

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Though now that I think about it, my initial theory that being sufficiently injured prevents you from time traveling is shaky, what with Jin bouncing around while unconscious. So there's got to be some other explanation for Ben not making the jump.

A friend pointed out to me that both Ben and John touched the donkey wheel. Maybe that has something to do with them staying in "real" time...?

[BarTopDancer]

We don't know for sure that Ben didn't make it. Maybe he's with Sun and Sayid.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

We don't know for sure that Ben didn't make it. Maybe he's with Sun and Sayid.

We saw Ben last episode. He's unconscious with the injured from flight 316. Locke: "He's the man who killed me."

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

We saw Ben last episode. He's unconscious with the injured from flight 316. Locke: "He's the man who killed me."

Oh ya.


Did anyone else catch the name of the woman who gave birth? Pretty sure it was Annie (and what else has that actress been in? It's driving me crazy!)

[bewitched]

Hmmm...

(The Hanso Foundation was behind the original Dharma Initiative)

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And before you ask, sadly I don't have anything better to do tonight...

This is likely where the idea that the statue is Ramses II came from:

Originally Posted by Lostpedia

* The statue may be in reference to the poem "On a Stupendous Leg of Granite", by Horace Smith. The poem begins, "In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone, / Stands a gigantic Leg". The poem refers to the fallen Ramesses II colossus near Luxor, Egypt. The poem is about the irony of power--and the end of powerful civilizations. Percy Bysshe Shelley's version of the poem, "Ozymandias," also describes the foot statue.

* The Colossus of Rhodes, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, snapped off mid-leg in an earthquake not long after it was built.

[Pirate Bill]

I'm not necessarily sold on the Lost statue being Ramses II. I just thought it was interesting that both statues have a very similar stance and were also broken off just above the foot. Another difference between the 2 is Ramses has the left leg forward but the Lost statue appears to have the right leg forward.

However, they both seem to be about the same height, hands down to the side holding objects, facing forward with one leg in front of the other.

Another caller (in the same Lost Podcast episode) mentioned that it looks like the statue is holding an ankh (which also supports your Anubis idea). Interestingly, Amy's husband, Paul, had an ankh necklace.