The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 244

Alex · 10-04-2007, 06:42 PM

Yes, but at the moment (and for at least 11 more years) it is a bias that that can only impact women.

By generally accepted usage, a policy that specifically harms the poor (in this country) is seen as racist so I'd say my personal eligibility requirement is sexist.

Strangler Lewis · 10-04-2007, 08:41 PM

This is why I've never voted for Steve Ford, Chip Carter or any other son of a former president.

scaeagles · 10-04-2007, 08:49 PM

You sexist, Strangler. You didn't even mention Amy Carter. Would you vote for a daughter of a former President or are they not even worthy of mention?

Strangler Lewis · 10-05-2007, 06:34 AM

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You sexist, Strangler. You didn't even mention Amy Carter. Would you vote for a daughter of a former President or are they not even worthy of mention?

I would love to watch Amy Carter debate Chelsea Clinton.

And by "debate" I mean . . .

Never mind.

Morrigoon · 10-05-2007, 05:01 PM

This is a harsh, but excellent, article. Very thought provoking.

Interestingly, saw it referenced on a blog about non-custodial parents' rights (where he related the 10 steps to the ways the "system" works against fathers)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

I could related the 10 things to a few other things, but for now, I'll let the article stand for itself.

Moonliner · 10-11-2007, 11:59 AM

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House resolution would call the World War I massacre of Armenians by Turkish forces genocide

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Democratic leaders said earlier if the Foreign Affairs Committee passed the resolution, they intended to bring it to the House floor

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President Bush and key administration figures lobbied hard against it.

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Turkey, a NATO member, has been a key U.S. ally in the Middle East and a conduit for sending supplies into Iraq.

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U.S. commanders "believe clearly that access to airfields and roads and so on in Turkey would very much be put at risk if this resolution passes

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Turkey recalls ambassador to U.S.

OK I get it. The Democrats have failed to stop the Iraq war so now they are going to make it hard to pursue the war by cutting off supply routes.

Huh. Somehow I always thought that was more or less the enemy's job.

sleepyjeff · 10-11-2007, 12:20 PM

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OK I get it. The Democrats have failed to stop the Iraq war so now they are going to make it hard to pursue the war by cutting off supply routes.

Huh. Somehow I always thought that was more or less the enemy's job.

Yep...it's amazing what they do in "support" of our troops. One has to wonder why many of these legislators didn't support this same resolution 12 years ago when Clinton opposed it.

Don't like the war....show some backbone and end it straight up; don't undercut those fighting it

innerSpaceman · 10-11-2007, 12:35 PM

Oh, so we should support rank hypocricy and, by extension, GENOCIDE ... just because it was our allies whom we depend on militarily who commited the GENOCIDE?!?

That's pretty fu<king disgusting. Bad enough that we declare it genocide 60 years later, and do nothing about Darfour's genocide in the here and now. But to say we should hide our heads in the sand over such atrocities because it suits our military purposes is frelling NAZISM.

Yes, I godwined this thread. Sue Me.

Moonliner · 10-11-2007, 01:13 PM

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to say we should hide our heads in the sand over such atrocities because it suits our military purposes is frelling NAZISM.

And how would you characterize using Genocide as a tool of political expediency? That's what the democrats are doing in this case. A vote on this amendment now is not a vote of conscience, it is an end-run to try and reverse an unpopular political situation.

sleepyjeff · 10-11-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Oh, so we should support rank hypocricy and, by extension, GENOCIDE ... just because it was our allies whom we depend on militarily who commited the GENOCIDE?!?

That's pretty fu<king disgusting. Bad enough that we declare it genocide 60 years later, and do nothing about Darfour's genocide in the here and now. But to say we should hide our heads in the sand over such atrocities because it suits our military purposes is frelling NAZISM.

Yes, I godwined this thread. Sue Me.

So it wasn't Genocide 12 years ago when Dole was pushing for this resolution but now it is?

As for Darfur....The State Department has called it genocide(something the UN refuses to do).

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	This is a harsh, but excellent, article. Very thought provoking. Interestingly, saw it referenced on a blog about non-custodial parents' rights (where he related the 10 steps to the ways the "system" works against fathers) http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html I could related the 10 things to a few other things, but for now, I'll let the article stand for itself. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh, so we should support rank hypocricy and, by extension, GENOCIDE ... just because it was our allies whom we depend on militarily who commited the GENOCIDE?!? That's pretty fu<king disgusting. Bad enough that we declare it genocide 60 years later, and do nothing about Darfour's genocide in the here and now. But to say we should hide our heads in the sand over such atrocities because it suits our military purposes is frelling NAZISM. Yes, I godwined this thread. Sue Me.
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