The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 248

BDBopper · 10-25-2007, 07:13 AM

This pretty much says it all.

Moonliner · 10-25-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Just saw that Stephen Colbert is higher in the polls than either Richardson or Biden.

The joke won't last long. Election laws prevent having Doritos as a sponsor of your campaign and using your national television show to promote your campaign. So unless comedy central is planning to give all the candidates their own show........

barfownz · 10-24-2007, 11:51 PM

Vote Ron Paul...enough said.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-25-2007, 04:28 PM

"Leaning toward a Christian faith" is a far cry from "most of them are clergymen".

innerSpaceman · 10-25-2007, 04:32 PM

I love the quote from Alexander Hamilton on his death bed. If only I had a dollar for every lapsed Christian that returned to the flock at that final point of life, for the religion that promises absolution of all sins if you ask pretty please with your final breath.

Scrooge McSam · 10-25-2007, 06:58 PM

So that leaves us where?

Non christian?

or

so-called Christian nation lying about our origins

You know... there really is nothing new under the sun.

scaeagles · 10-25-2007, 08:16 PM

I think the founders clearly applied their faiths in the founding documents of the country, including that concept of free will (and the freedom to worship or not worship as we so choose). We are not a "Christian nation" because we do not have a state established religion.

Strangler Lewis · 10-26-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

We are not a "Christian nation" because we do not have a state established religion.

We are not a Christian nation because we do not have a national religion. Because the First Amendment, as written, bound only Congress, the founders arguably contemplated the establishment of state churches since they knew how to limit state power when they wanted to but chose not to do so in this instance.

Not that's a good thing.

scaeagles · 10-26-2007, 02:12 PM

When I said state run church, I was referring to a religion established by the government of the nation. Yes, states can establish their own "official" religion, and in fact, historically it has happened a few times in various state constitutions....can't think of which off the top of my head.

Prudence · 11-01-2007, 04:02 PM

Holy freakin' cow I can not wait until Tuesday! I'm so sick of the damn R67 ads here.

Meanwhile, speaking of WA state politics: Wendybeth, are all Spokane politicians secretly gay? I'm just wondering...

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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	"Leaning toward a Christian faith" is a far cry from "most of them are clergymen". __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I love the quote from Alexander Hamilton on his death bed. If only I had a dollar for every lapsed Christian that returned to the flock at that final point of life, for the religion that promises absolution of all sins if you ask pretty please with your final breath.
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Scrooge McSam What? Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,635	So that leaves us where? Non christian? or so-called Christian nation lying about our origins You know... there really is nothing new under the sun.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I think the founders clearly applied their faiths in the founding documents of the country, including that concept of free will (and the freedom to worship or not worship as we so choose). We are not a "Christian nation" because we do not have a state established religion.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	When I said state run church, I was referring to a religion established by the government of the nation. Yes, states can establish their own "official" religion, and in fact, historically it has happened a few times in various state constitutions....can't think of which off the top of my head.
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