Miscellaneous Movie Musings - Page 279

Bornieo: Fully Loaded · 12-27-2007, 06:45 PM

I'm at 29

Last Temptation was such a Nontraversy.

Salo - wholly crap! Everyone's gotta see that one! It's pretty insaine

Not Afraid · 12-27-2007, 07:04 PM

32 is the number I counted. I'm surprised Henry and June wasn't on the list. It was the first NC17-rated film. I also remember Billy Jack being a big controversy when I was a kid (but I don't know why).

Moonliner · 12-27-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I've seen these. Um, I don't think the people who made the list know what 'controversial" means.

Two things:

First I don't think you can deny that a film like Passion of the Christ caused a lot of controversy, whether you or I personally felt the controversy for that or any other movie on the list is immaterial.

Also it does make we wonder, what would you list as your top two or three selections for this list?

innerSpaceman · 12-27-2007, 10:49 PM

David Cronenberg is a fracking genius.

(Eastern Promises is awesome)

* * * * *

As for the list, and the films which I recall causing the most controversy (whether or not I considered then nontroversial) ... are The Last Temptation of Christ, Carnal Knowledge, and JFK.

Not Afraid · 12-27-2007, 11:00 PM

Well, it took 2 days but we finished watching The Man Who Fell to Earth. It had been probably 30 years since I last saw it. Last night, I just couldn't finish it. It was waaaay to late for a film paced as this one is. Interesting film, not necessarily a very good film, but worth seeing once (every 30 years or so).

Presently, Aleister is chasing the bouncing screen saver on the TV.

Gemini Cricket · 12-27-2007, 11:14 PM

Aladdin (1992) # 25

Basic Instinct (1992) # 19

The Birth Of A Nation (1915) # 7

Blue Velvet (1986)

Bonnie And Clyde (1967) # 21

Boxing Helena (1993)

Brokeback Mountain (2005)

Caligula (1980) # 24

Carnal Knowledge (1971)

Citizen Kane (1941)

A Clockwork Orange (1971, UK) # 2

The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989, UK)

Crash (1996)

Cruising (1980)

The Da Vinci Code (2006) # 13

Deep Throat (1972) # 4

The Deer Hunter (1978) # 12

The Devils (1971, UK)

Dirty Harry (1971)

Do The Right Thing (1989) # 22

Dogma (1999)

The Evil Dead (1981)

The Exorcist (1973)

Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004) # 3

Freaks (1932) # 17

Hail, Mary (1985, Fr.) (aka Je vous salue, Marie)

Heaven's Gate (1980)

Henry: Portrait of A Serial Killer (1986) (released in 1990)

JFK (1991) # 5

Kids (1995) # 23

Kinsey (2004)

The Last Picture Show (1971)

Last Tango In Paris (1972, It./Fr.) # 9

The Last Temptation Of Christ (1988) # 6

Lolita (1962, UK)

Monty Python's Life of Brian (1979, UK)

Natural Born Killers (1994) # 8

The Passion Of The Christ (2004) # 1

Pink Flamingos (1972)

Pretty Baby (1978)

Rosemary's Baby (1968)

September Dawn (2007)

Song of the South (1946)

South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999)

Straw Dogs (1971)

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)

United 93 (2006) # 16

The Warriors (1979) # 14

The Wild Bunch (1969)

Strangler Lewis · 12-28-2007, 07:44 AM

I believe "Last Temptation" was the only movie I've ever seen where I had to walk by protesters.

"Billy Jack" was controversial because it was anti-war, pro-Indian, and a badly acted bore. It also featured the worst marksmanship by paid soldiers in the history of cinema.

Moonliner · 12-28-2007, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I believe "Last Temptation" was the only movie I've ever seen where I had to walk by protesters.

"Billy Jack" was controversial because it was anti-war, pro-Indian, and a badly acted bore. It also featured the worst marksmanship by paid soldiers in the history of cinema.

Sorry, but I think Imperial Storm Troopers take that award.

Strangler Lewis · 12-28-2007, 08:09 AM

The Storm Troopers did miss a lot. However, they were in combat. The guardsmen in "Billy Jack" were supposed to shoot unarmed peaceful protesters. I think they got just one.

flippyshark · 12-28-2007, 08:47 AM

Here in Central Florida, the furor over Last Temptation was so great, the only theater in town that would show it was an adult cinema. I caught it in a small theater in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and there were about three or four protesters outside, and security guards in the theater. I loved it then, and get a lot out of it now.

I own 23 titles on that list. Whee!

The most prominent title I haven't yet seen is Cannibal Holocaust. It sounds intriguing in many ways (not least, its pre-Blair Witch pseudo-documentary section) but I also know the film includes real, unsimulated animal slaughter, and I have a hard time getting behind that. (Yes, I'm a hypocrite - I gleefully eat bacon and other meaty treats.) The DVD provides an option for skipping those scenes, but part of me thinks I ought to see the film as it was intended. So, I haven't yet bothered.

I guess its a sign of the times, or my own jaded status, that when I finally saw Salo, I thought, heck that wasn't so bad.

12-27-2007, 06:45 PM	#2781
Bornieo: Fully Loaded Lego Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Disneyland, USA Posts: 3,704	I'm at 29 Last Temptation was such a Nontraversy. Salo - wholly crap! Everyone's gotta see that one! It's pretty insaine
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12-27-2007, 07:04 PM	#2782
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	32 is the number I counted. I'm surprised Henry and June wasn't on the list. It was the first NC17-rated film. I also remember Billy Jack being a big controversy when I was a kid (but I don't know why).
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12-27-2007, 10:49 PM	#2784
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	David Cronenberg is a fracking genius. (Eastern Promises is awesome) * * * * * As for the list, and the films which I recall causing the most controversy (whether or not I considered then nontroversial) ... are The Last Temptation of Christ, Carnal Knowledge, and JFK.
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12-27-2007, 11:00 PM	#2785
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Well, it took 2 days but we finished watching The Man Who Fell to Earth. It had been probably 30 years since I last saw it. Last night, I just couldn't finish it. It was waaaay to late for a film paced as this one is. Interesting film, not necessarily a very good film, but worth seeing once (every 30 years or so). Presently, Aleister is chasing the bouncing screen saver on the TV.
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12-27-2007, 11:14 PM	#2786
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	49 for me Aladdin (1992) # 25 Basic Instinct (1992) # 19 The Birth Of A Nation (1915) # 7 Blue Velvet (1986) Bonnie And Clyde (1967) # 21 Boxing Helena (1993) Brokeback Mountain (2005) Caligula (1980) # 24 Carnal Knowledge (1971) Citizen Kane (1941) A Clockwork Orange (1971, UK) # 2 The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989, UK) Crash (1996) Cruising (1980) The Da Vinci Code (2006) # 13 Deep Throat (1972) # 4 The Deer Hunter (1978) # 12 The Devils (1971, UK) Dirty Harry (1971) Do The Right Thing (1989) # 22 Dogma (1999) The Evil Dead (1981) The Exorcist (1973) Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004) # 3 Freaks (1932) # 17 Hail, Mary (1985, Fr.) (aka Je vous salue, Marie) Heaven's Gate (1980) Henry: Portrait of A Serial Killer (1986) (released in 1990) JFK (1991) # 5 Kids (1995) # 23 Kinsey (2004) The Last Picture Show (1971) Last Tango In Paris (1972, It./Fr.) # 9 The Last Temptation Of Christ (1988) # 6 Lolita (1962, UK) Monty Python's Life of Brian (1979, UK) Natural Born Killers (1994) # 8 The Passion Of The Christ (2004) # 1 Pink Flamingos (1972) Pretty Baby (1978) Rosemary's Baby (1968) September Dawn (2007) Song of the South (1946) South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999) Straw Dogs (1971) The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) United 93 (2006) # 16 The Warriors (1979) # 14 The Wild Bunch (1969)
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12-28-2007, 07:44 AM	#2787
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I believe "Last Temptation" was the only movie I've ever seen where I had to walk by protesters. "Billy Jack" was controversial because it was anti-war, pro-Indian, and a badly acted bore. It also featured the worst marksmanship by paid soldiers in the history of cinema. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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12-28-2007, 08:09 AM	#2789
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	The Storm Troopers did miss a lot. However, they were in combat. The guardsmen in "Billy Jack" were supposed to shoot unarmed peaceful protesters. I think they got just one. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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12-28-2007, 08:47 AM	#2790
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	Here in Central Florida, the furor over Last Temptation was so great, the only theater in town that would show it was an adult cinema. I caught it in a small theater in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and there were about three or four protesters outside, and security guards in the theater. I loved it then, and get a lot out of it now. I own 23 titles on that list. Whee! The most prominent title I haven't yet seen is Cannibal Holocaust. It sounds intriguing in many ways (not least, its pre-Blair Witch pseudo-documentary section) but I also know the film includes real, unsimulated animal slaughter, and I have a hard time getting behind that. (Yes, I'm a hypocrite - I gleefully eat bacon and other meaty treats.) The DVD provides an option for skipping those scenes, but part of me thinks I ought to see the film as it was intended. So, I haven't yet bothered. I guess its a sign of the times, or my own jaded status, that when I finally saw Salo, I thought, heck that wasn't so bad.
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