The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 280

Morrigoon · 01-04-2008, 02:17 PM

For the sake of argument, anyone who needs to see the Obama speech can view it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZaq-YKCnE

Morrigoon · 01-04-2008, 02:21 PM

Is it just me, or are all the "red" and "blue" politicians starting to wear ties that match their affiliation?

LSPoorEeyorick · 01-04-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Obama believes it is right to raise income taxes on "the rich". Problem is that income taxes are a tax on the accumulation of wealth.

Obama wants a universal health care program.

Obama will pull our troops out of Iraq.

Thank you for the point-by-point list of some of the reasons I support Obama!

I may have missed it, but did anyone post that long political beliefs meme that's been sluicing around LiveJournal lately?

scaeagles · 01-05-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I do not give the government one-third of everything I earn so they can "stay out of the way."

We shouldn't be giving the government one third of everything we earn.

innerSpaceman · 01-05-2008, 09:03 AM

Yeah, that's all well and good .... perhaps "give" was not the right word.

I'm sure you're quite aware that they take it.

And maybe they shouldn't. I very much agree. But since they are, I rather prefer they do something with it to improve the situation of other Americans whose money they take, and not use it to our disadvantage or worse.

scaeagles · 01-05-2008, 10:02 AM

Take it? Isn't the tax code voluntary? (hahahahahahaha)

This is why I am for tax cuts in any and every form (income taxes particularly), and I think they could be lowered IMMENSELY. Tax cuts historically raise tax revenues becuase of increased economic activity, but I don't really want the government to have more money. This means we could cut them a whole lot.

Ghoulish Delight · 01-05-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Tax cuts historically raise tax revenues becuase of increased economic activity,

Bought into that lie, have you?

sleepyjeff · 01-05-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Bought into that lie, have you?

Whether it is the Demand-side cuts of JFK or the Supply-side cuts of RWR I think a case can be made that tax cuts do create more revenue.....at least in the short term. The last three Presidents to try it all had success(JFK, RWR, and yes, GWB)

As for me....I'd rather see the source of the problem addressed first......spending.

JWBear · 01-05-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Bought into that lie, have you?

It is true if you cut taxes to the middle class and small businesses. But Republicans never seem to want to do that. They'd rather give tax breaks to big corporations and the very wealthy, which doesn't help at all.

sleepyjeff · 01-05-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

It is true if you cut taxes to the middle class and small businesses. But Republicans never seem to want to do that. They'd rather give tax breaks to big corporations and the very wealthy, which doesn't help at all.

But if they are the ones paying 80+ percent of the taxes it's gonna be kinda hard to cut taxes at all without cutting theirs wouldn't you agree?

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	For the sake of argument, anyone who needs to see the Obama speech can view it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZaq-YKCnE __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Is it just me, or are all the "red" and "blue" politicians starting to wear ties that match their affiliation? __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, that's all well and good .... perhaps "give" was not the right word. I'm sure you're quite aware that they take it. And maybe they shouldn't. I very much agree. But since they are, I rather prefer they do something with it to improve the situation of other Americans whose money they take, and not use it to our disadvantage or worse.
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01-05-2008, 10:02 AM	#2796
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Take it? Isn't the tax code voluntary? (hahahahahahaha) This is why I am for tax cuts in any and every form (income taxes particularly), and I think they could be lowered IMMENSELY. Tax cuts historically raise tax revenues becuase of increased economic activity, but I don't really want the government to have more money. This means we could cut them a whole lot.
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