America in Color from 1939-1943 - Page 3

innerSpaceman · 07-29-2010, 11:07 AM

It's funny how easy it is to forget that color is entirely a product of our brain and our perception, and does not exist in nature.

They DID live in a black and white world, as do we. Color is added by us.

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oh, but one of the things I loved about Wings of Desire is that the angels could see only in black and white, because it revealed the true nature of things (black and white photography is wonderful for this). Yet the one angel was so envious of humans, who experienced the universe in color.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-29-2010, 11:30 AM

Um, color is real. Subjective, but real.

JWBear · 07-29-2010, 12:50 PM

My mother remembers the 30's (and a good portion of the 20's as well). She assurs me that things were in color back then, just like now.

Snowflake · 07-29-2010, 12:56 PM

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My mother remembers the 30's (and a good portion of the 20's as well). She assurs me that things were in color back then, just like now.

Did they talk too?

Say, OT to everyone but me, does your Mom have any recollection of Valentino being around or when he died? Just curious!

JWBear · 07-29-2010, 01:00 PM

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Say, OT to everyone but me, does your Mom have any recollection of Valentino being around or when he died? Just curious!

She was only two years old, so I doubt it.

Snowflake · 07-29-2010, 01:06 PM

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She was only two years old, so I doubt it.

Okay, "a good portion of the 20's" led me to assume otherwise, sorry! I just made an ass out of myself!

Alex · 07-29-2010, 01:07 PM

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It's funny how easy it is to forget that color is entirely a product of our brain and our perception, and does not exist in nature.

CP already commented but I'm curious about this comment as well. Perception of color can vary but "color" is an objective attribute in the sense that the electromagnetic wavelengths emitted and reflected are the same regardless of observer.

DreadPirateRoberts · 07-29-2010, 01:32 PM

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CP already commented but I'm curious about this comment as well. Perception of color can vary but "color" is an objective attribute in the sense that the electromagnetic wavelengths emitted and reflected are the same regardless of observer.

True, but can the same be said for the rods and cones in the eye of the observer?

Alex · 07-29-2010, 01:47 PM

As I said, "perception of color can vary." But it is entirely possible to determine that something is green without rods and cones being involved.

But that is not the same thing as the world is black and white and color is simply a creation of perception. Any more than light is a creation of perception since the ability to see it can vary from person to person.

JWBear · 07-29-2010, 02:24 PM

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Okay, "a good portion of the 20's" led me to assume otherwise, sorry! I just made an ass out of myself!

No you didn't. I should have said "part of the 20's" instead of "a good portion of the 20's". I typed without really thinking about it.

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	It's funny how easy it is to forget that color is entirely a product of our brain and our perception, and does not exist in nature. They DID live in a black and white world, as do we. Color is added by us. [/obnoxious tangent] oh, but one of the things I loved about Wings of Desire is that the angels could see only in black and white, because it revealed the true nature of things (black and white photography is wonderful for this). Yet the one angel was so envious of humans, who experienced the universe in color.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Um, color is real. Subjective, but real. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	My mother remembers the 30's (and a good portion of the 20's as well). She assurs me that things were in color back then, just like now. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	As I said, "perception of color can vary." But it is entirely possible to determine that something is green without rods and cones being involved. But that is not the same thing as the world is black and white and color is simply a creation of perception. Any more than light is a creation of perception since the ability to see it can vary from person to person.
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