Scott McClellen- "Bush is a Fiscal Conservative"

[€uroMeinke]

War on Poverty, War on Drugs, War on Terror - perhaps the "war" model isn't working out for us, maybe we should try something else?

[lizziebith]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

War on Poverty, War on Drugs, War on Terror - perhaps the "war" model isn't working out for us, maybe we should try something else?

BEST. POLITICAL POST. EVER.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

War on Poverty, War on Drugs, War on Terror - perhaps the "war" model isn't working out for us, maybe we should try something else?

How about lazier faire?

[Morrigoon]

Here's a thought about the shrinking middle class...

Getting back to what I said earlier about democrats' claims of "Making the rich pay their fair share" only really affecting high-income earners. The democrats piss and moan about the widening gap between the rich and the poor, but it seems every initiative they promise will get the "rich" guy actually hurts those in the middle, thus further widening the gap, which they then complain about to get more votes.

[Prudence]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Here's a thought about the shrinking middle class...

Getting back to what I said earlier about democrats' claims of "Making the rich pay their fair share" only really affecting high-income earners. The democrats piss and moan about the widening gap between the rich and the poor, but it seems every initiative they promise will get the "rich" guy actually hurts those in the middle, thus further widening the gap, which they then complain about to get more votes.

While I actually agree with the above, I also wanted to note that Republican promises of "middle class tax cuts" also seem to miss their target. At least they always missed our family, and we were neither impoverished nor rich, thus leaving a presumption that we were middle class. What really happens to the middle class is that they make too much to benefit from anyone's proposals to help the poor, and they make too little to benefit from the magic of investments and economy-stimulating tax cuts. They always take the fall and they never get the burden.

I wonder how much of our economic trouble today is due to this vanishing middle class. We're left with the upper class that doesn't have to pay and the lower class that can't pay. It's an over simplification and I'm not an economist, so it's just a little theory.

[Morrigoon]

Originally Posted by Prudence

While I actually agree with the above, I also wanted to note that Republican promises of "middle class tax cuts" also seem to miss their target. At least they always missed our family, and we were neither impoverished nor rich, thus leaving a presumption that we were middle class. What really happens to the middle class is that they make too much to benefit from anyone's proposals to help the poor, and they make too little to benefit from the magic of investments and economy-stimulating tax cuts. They always take the fall and they never get the burden.

I wonder how much of our economic trouble today is due to this vanishing middle class. We're left with the upper class that doesn't have to pay and the lower class that can't pay. It's an over simplification and I'm not an economist, so it's just a little theory.

It's because everyone's so concerned with giving breaks or benefits to people who don't "deserve" it, that they put such strict restrictions on things, and in the end, are willing to deny things to people that "need" them, just to be sure they don't give anything to those that "don't". Thus, they leave the middle class high and dry.

[Prudence]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

It's because everyone's so concerned with giving breaks or benefits to people who don't "deserve" it, that they put such strict restrictions on things, and in the end, are willing to deny things to people that "need" them, just to be sure they don't give anything to those that "don't". Thus, they leave the middle class high and dry.

Let's see -- I'll just be old enough for the 08 election. Wanna be my running mate?

[Morrigoon]

I'm at the bottom, and I got like $300 back from the gov't - extra!

[Morrigoon]

A Capitalist and a Socialist on the same ticket.... now THAT's bipartisan!

Actually I'm not old enough for the presidential ticket for some time yet (like, say, about 16.5 years)

I sometimes toy with the idea of running for local office, but I figure I'd better get my credit/debt stuff straightened out first.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Actually I'm not old enough for the presidential ticket for some time yet (like, say, about 16.5 years)

You can say 16.5 years all you want...it won't make you 18 1/2 years old again. (I think you maybe meant 6.5 years?)