NO! Chemical weapons in Iraq???

[Ghoulish Delight]

To me, this continues to support the same version of the story that's been unfolding since after the invasion (and was predicted by those evil liberal nay-sayers before the invasion)...Sadaam was lying about his intentions (omg, stop the presses) and secretly harboring the desire to rev up his chemical weapons program again. But desire and action were no aquainted with each other, and the constant scrutiny had him in a position where everything was on hold. He had to burry everything he had and let it rot in the desert. So despite his desires, Iraq's capability to produce viable, dangerous chemical weapons in quantity was years behind where they were before Desert Storm.

Okay, so he didn't destroy them all...but the sanctions and scrutiny did that job for him. They were destroyed by time. Mission Accomplished.

[scaeagles]

Actually, if I recall, the liberal mantra prior to the Bush election was that Saddam was a dangerous man with WMDs. During the second election, John Kerry said that if you didn't believe Saddam was a dangerous man with WMD, you shouldn't vote for him. After the Bush elections it was the same thing. After Bush action, it became that he had no WMD because he had destroyed them all and therefore action was unnecessary. Now it is that it is no big deal because they were old and degraded. In fact, I've heard some reports on the local radio about liberals questioning why it took so long to find these and why we're only finding out now from his recently declassified document.

So no matter what, spin from the left will be critical.

GD, I honestly don't recall anyone on the left saying Saddam still had WMD post invasion.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

GD, I honestly don't recall anyone on the left saying Saddam still had WMD post invasion.

It was neither from the left nor the right, but what I'm referring to is the post-invasion analysissess (or whatever the fvck the plural of that word is...analyses, that's it) that concluded over and over again that Sadaam really really really really wanted to be WMD capable, but was completely nackered by the UN watchdogs. So yeah, finding chemical weapons that were degraded beyond usefullness continues to support that. Weapons that he had to bury in the desert and not even glance at for fear of being discovered are as good as destroyed. Inert chemical weapons are not WMDs. It all comes down to the fact that even without Sadaam's cooperation, the UN's constant nagging accomplished exactly what it was supposed to. It rendered him powerless.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

GD, I honestly don't recall anyone on the left saying Saddam still had WMD post invasion.

I seem to recall Bush making a big stink about Saddam having WMD and that is why we were going in.

But I could just be having false memories

[scaeagles]

Should I accept that premise (which isn't unreasonable), how were we to know that without the required full and unfettered access required by the cease fire and UN resolutions related to the cease fire?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Should I accept that premise (which isn't unreasonable), how were we to know that without the required full and unfettered access required by the cease fire and UN resolutions related to the cease fire?

Well, how about the proponderance of things like that video of Sadaam from just after the Gulf War where he tells his top aides exactly that? Or the fistfulls of defectors that told us exactly that?

Like I said, this is just another piece in a long list of evidence that started coming in before the invasion and continues to be corroborated.

[Not Afraid]

Should I split this thread? There's a conversation going on about WMD in Iraq then there's another discussion about how people feel about others expressing their thoughts. Mabe we should have one big thread where people can post their generalities about posting habits and content.

[FEJ]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

.. Mabe we should have one big thread where people can post their generalities about posting habits and content.

Isn't that called "The Parking Lot?"

[FEJ]

Have they found these yet?

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by ubergeek42

Have they found these yet?

No, but they know where they are.

Spoiler:

They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.