Bad day for war proponents

[Tramspotter]

Those adds are not for the foundation now are they?

I am going simply by his ads and the democratic partys platform on stem cell reserch as presented he must not have wanted us to know about the foundation he dosen't mention it during all this publicity.

Stumping for spector hardley a Republicans Republican more like providing cover.

And where did I say he got Parkinsons to start a foundation in his name I said I wouldnt have lost respect for him and called it whoring himself out if it were just an issue add or apeal for private funds.

And Prudance and Wendybeth look it up your selves and show Scientific progress not Scientists puffing up thier results growing an ear on a mouses back and wanting to do further research at the publics expense. Raw tissue harvesting is comming and my opinion is it's too early to write it a blank government check. When the first nasty nasty mistake or ethical violation occours why not this time not have it be us why act now why such a rush why cant we stay out of the fray. Others are working on it private firms are complaining about the stock of cells they alreay harvested going bad. He fails to mention this either. I can only assume he wants more $ and little to no restrictions as seen in the Democratic Party Platform. How does the most Agressive jive with under the strictest ethical guidelines? perhaps we should consult DR Nick.

California is already coffed up a large amount that we shouldn't be spending on it's own. Why the fvck is this the governments responsibility anyhow.

At best and there is of course no certianty bleeding the public coffers and raising embryos to 250 cells or so or whatever the best time to harvest them and having the best doctors work on it for years the best estimates are 10 years to even start testing on humans. How do you feel about animal testing? because they will burn thrugh many many thousands of animals before then.

So working people up and jumpping on bandwagons and support good ideas but not give a rats ass about thier implimentation or mitigating problems before they happen especialy problems that can't be undone. yup sounds like the classic liberal way to do things to me.

I would rather be a Dick than an Asshole or Pussy if those are my only options.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

And where did I say he got Parkinsons to start a foundation in his name

You didn't. I did.

I would rather be a Dick than an Asshole or Pussy if those are my only options.

MJF is the dick. You're the guy who lacks reading comprehension skills.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Those adds are not for the foundation now are they?

No, they are not. Your original point was that he chose to take the political route rather than the foundation route. He's doing both.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

I am going simply by his ads and the democratic partys platform on stem cell reserch as presented he must not have wanted us to know about the foundation he dosen't mention it during all this publicity.

Tell me, when one does a political ad for a candidate they support, do they generally spend that time tooting their own horn, or restrict their comments to bolstering their candidate or bashing their candidate's foe?

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Stumping for spector hardley a Republicans Republican more like providing cover.

May be, but it does prove the lie of your statement.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

So working people up and jumpping on bandwagons and support good ideas but not give a rats ass about thier implimentation or mitigating problems before they happen especialy problems that can't be undone. yup sounds like the classic liberal way to do things to me.

Try to stay on topic. We're not talking about Iraq.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

I would rather be a Dick than an Asshole or Pussy if those are my only options.

Here's to your continued success.

[wendybeth]

Mouse ears? I think you may be referring to hair cell regeneration, which is actually achieved through gene therapy. Since my kid has a hearing disorder that this will someday soon be able to fix, I am all for it and if it became a political issue would endorse the candidates who supported the research.


Tell me, do you consider Patricia Heaton and her group of celebs political whores as well?

[Prudence]

Must be nice to live in a world where everything is someone else's problem with which the rest of us need not concern ourselves.

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by Prudence

Must be nice to live in a world where everything is someone else's problem with which the rest of us need not concern ourselves.

You can


Stem cell research must be a hard sell on it's own if an appeal to emotion is why it should be supported.

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

And where did I say he got Parkinsons to start a foundation in his name I said I wouldnt have lost respect for him and called it whoring himself out if it were just an issue add or apeal for private funds.

This answer just won't do I of course knew about the spector add and didn't head it off so foolish of me... I should try again

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Are you telling me Fox got Parkinson's so he could start a foundation in his name and everyone will say what a great guy he is? What a dick!

No, I am not saying that at all, and I quite agree with you MJF is a dick.

[Prudence]

Eh, not worth wrestling with the pig. I just had a shower.

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Mouse ears? I think you may be referring to hair cell regeneration, which is actually achieved through gene therapy. Since my kid has a hearing disorder that this will someday soon be able to fix, I am all for it and if it became a political issue would endorse the candidates who supported the research.

No I was talking about this


There is no genetic engineering or even human tissue involved here. But you gotta grow the coaxed stimulated stem cell tissue somewhere and since even your shallow party would put in some sort of for public consumptionfrowning on human testing it's gonna be annimals... so will you have as much bile twards PITA when they oppose as for the knuckle dragging bible thumpers who as MJF said can't wrap their hearts or heads around the issue H,mmmm?

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Tell me, do you consider Patricia Heaton and her group of celebs political whores as well?

Yes, and much better looking whore too. She apparently also want's Federal coin to support some alternate pro life plan and even some B.S. constitutional amendment allowing adult stem research being deceptive in it's Pro-Life-ness.

"the position of the organization was detailed by her fellow "FFL" member, actress Margaret Colin. Colin testified before the Commerce Committee Subcommittee on Science and Technology on May 2, 2001 and said the following: "We urge you to direct federal funds to support these promising new alternatives, including stem cells acquired from consenting adults, women donating placenta and umbilical cord blood donations – even stem cells from fat, which I have a feeling many of us would be more than happy to donate, in the name of science, of course...Feminists for Life and I support non-destructive forms of stem cell research."

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

No, I am not saying that at all, and I quite agree with you MJF is a dick.

I was responding to Scrooge McSam's post about the Foundation. As for Fox....Alex P Keaton was a dick and many of Mikey J's movies sucked but Fox seems like a pretty decent guy.


Speaking of dicks, I've been something of a snarky prick in this thread and others lately. For that I apologize to you, Tramspotter, and everyone else.

And only a whore would sleep with Ray Romano (even for pretends).