Ann Coulter's F Bomb

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

So... It's Conservatives who coarsened the culture... Now it all makes sense...


We need to outlaw bridge clubs and church pankake breakfasts they are just as insidius and hatefull as the bier halls of Bavaria in the late 1920's.

Long bleached blonde hair and the little black dress are now de rigeur among middle American church ladies.

But seriously, at church clubs and knitting bees, when the "A faggot says what" smack dies down, the talk among the ladies invariably turns to how bad they feel about the effect of this critical publicity on Ann Coulter's husband and children.

What? She doesn't have any?

Well, isn't that special?

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Not only is it the 'everyone else is doing it' defense, it actually makes the perpetrator a victim. Hate speech is wrong, and anyone who indulges in it has to suffer the consequences. Ann Coulter has been pretty out there for a long while now, and with the backlash against the Republicans I seriously doubt they are going to let her ramble on as their representitive political pundit.

Hate speach is wrong MMMMMkkkayyy.

So now she is also a perpetrator eh? Should we inform the speach police shave her head and make her do the perp walk or is just making fun of the way she looks and everyone putting in thier 2cents about what a bitch she is enough?

And not to discount GD's keen analysis of my point but just curious as counter-culture warriors do you ever think damn that just went over the line?

Now please excuse me I have to put on my "How dare I wear this F*cking shirt in front of your F*cking children" Tee shirt and walk around downtown disney as I sing the I'm just a Jr high Prom dumpster baby song.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Apparently the kids today also say "Don't be so Jewish" when someone doesn't want to spend their money. In the political context, I guess we could criticize government spending by saying that if Congress only acted like a bunch of Jews--maybe even Jews on the sabbath--the country would be in better shape.

They said this when I was in school. It's nothing new.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

They said this when I was in school. It's nothing new.

What a relief.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Hate speach is wrong MMMMMkkkayyy.

So now she is also a perpetrator eh? Should we inform the speach police shave her head and make her do the perp walk or is just making fun of the way she looks and everyone putting in thier 2cents about what a bitch she is enough?

And not to discount GD's keen analysis of my point but just curious as counter-culture warriors do you ever think damn that just went over the line?

Now please excuse me I have to put on my "How dare I wear this F*cking shirt in front of your F*cking children" Tee shirt and walk around downtown disney as I sing the I'm just a Jr high Prom dumpster baby song.

So, are you telling us that you think it's ok to use hate speach? Does that mean that if someone were to use the "n" word to describe Bush, it would be ok with you? (Or is it only ok in Coulter's case because the word used was a pejorative commonly used against gays?)

[Alex]

Depends on what it means to be "ok" with hate speech. I don't think she should be criminally prevented from saying whatever she wants (nor should you be similarly be prevented from calling Bush whatever you want).

Of course, to be able to say whatever you want free of legal consequences is vastly different from being free to say whatever you want free of social consequences. And her juvenile inclination to call those she doesn't like gay (as was suggested earlier it does feel like she is a regular on MMORPGs) is surely deserving of ostracization.

[Ghoulish Delight]

What Alex said. Just because you CAN say something doesn't mean you shouldn't be rightly called an insensitive, small-minded jerk if you choose to exercise that right.

[JWBear]

I agree completely. But, it sounds to me that TS doesn't think there should even be social consequences to what she said.

[wendybeth]

TS, you go on and where whatever offensive shirt you feel like, but accept the consequences if there are negative repercussions.

Visible mojo for Alex.

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I agree completely. But, it sounds to me that TS doesn't think there should even be social consequences to what she said.

You agree completely that there should be no legal ban eh? Yet you use the term "hate speach" and I wonder have no problems with existing "hate laws" and creating additional laws which add "extra" penaltys for anyone who it can be proven has a proven previous dislike for a paticular group yes?

Regardless of legal, how far would you guys wish push the social backlash against someone like Colter? Publicaly let known your own distaste for her use of that language? A lifting of the usual social contract by making ad hominem attacks beyond what you would of other public figures? Write in to demand she be taken off the air depriving her of livelyhood? Protests that would make her fear for her safty? Just wondering

It also sounds to me JBW that making your own comments and agreeing with others who denounce her is not enough for you. Do you wish to bring the same social presure to bear on those who aren't as offended as you are by her comments or worse would dismiss them? What is your minumum level of indignation just so I know, not that I would chose to display it for your benifit. You seem awful eger to cast some sort of shadow on me personaly. I find that sort of mindset as distastefull and well poisoning as any particular slur or epithet I ever heard used for real real and not for play play.