Democratic National Convention '08

[Stan4dSteph]

I was amused by the footage that showed on ABC News of two Clinton aides holding up pantsuits in front of the stage backdrop to see which would work best on camera. They all looked the same except for the color!

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by 3894

And she's where she is because of her husband and also because people feel sorry for her because her husband had an affair.

As a woman of accomplishment myself and almost all of it having nothing to do with my husband, I felt angered by Hillary's candidacy. There are other, stronger, more accomplished women in politics who have made it under their own steam.

I gather you will not be founding a local chapter of the "Mary Bono for President" club.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

How are those grapes, 3894?

The Grapes of Wrath!

I personally agree with Helen in that post (well, except for the part about being a woman of a accomplishment as I am neither a woman [though my wife argues otherwise occasionally] and nor accomplished).

[Ghoulish Delight]

If Obama wins, and his Presidency has the effect I hope it does (namely putting a damper on the climate of antagonism in national politics), I'd probably vote for Clinton in 8 years. It's a ways off, and she isn't getting any younger, but 59 is not all that old for a Presidential candidate and under a climate of less partisan rage I think she'd make a good President

[innerSpaceman]

Well, then both of you display your ignorance of the woman, and that's alright. You don't have to know everything.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Okay, then I won't vote for her in 8 years.

[Gemini Cricket]

Sisterhood of the Traveling Pantsuits

I liked that bit.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Well, then both of you display your ignorance of the woman, and that's alright. You don't have to know everything.

You always admire what you really don't understand.
Blaise Pascal

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I liked that bit.

That's funny!

[innerSpaceman]

Perhaps I'd best explain myself better.


This is a very liberal-leaning message board. I don't think there are many supporters of John McCain for president around here. Heheh, not even among our few Conservative members.

Yet no one personally insults the man by saying he became a U.S. Senator because people felt sorry for him being tortured as a Vietnam prisoner of war. Yet, from a certain and logical point of view, that's exactly what happened.

Being a torture victim may make you a martyr-like hero that inspires admiration, but it more likely inspires pity.

Yet, it would be rude to say the Senator was elected by the citizens of Arizona because of pity ... and in any case, he's gone on to do very good work for his constituants in that State and for America as a United States Senator.


When people don't accord Senator Clinton the same respect, it irks me. And she has also gone on to do good work for her constituants and for America. And so I take umbrage at the personal and disgustingly disrespectful insult.

People are free to express that opinion, and I'd like to be free to express my displeasure at the rudeness that I find out of line.


I think the grapes sound as if they tasted sour, so I really don't think I'm being any more prissy than someone who accuses Hillary Clinton of attaining the lofty position accorded to a mere 100 Americans (much less being the first viable female presidential candidate in American history) through pity that she was cuckholded on national TV.