Obama - Page 3

Morrigoon · 07-16-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

This is a reference to the fine film PCU, about protestors who protest everything.

So they've been to my high school, have they?

innerSpaceman · 07-16-2009, 08:35 PM

Thanks for that, G.C. That was very moving.

Maybe not the fierce kind, but I'll grant that was clearlly some advocating.

scaeagles · 07-17-2009, 04:41 AM

Politician speak. Obama says much on many things and is a master of rhetoric.

Strangler Lewis · 07-17-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Politician speak. Obama says much on many things and is a master of rhetoric.

True, but in this area, given the choice between a politician who preaches compassion--but does nothing to implement it--and one who preaches cruelty--but does nothing to implement it--I'd choose the former because I do believe that the official tone that is set in the world does have some effect on how people behave.

innerSpaceman · 07-17-2009, 08:24 AM

Clinton was the same way. All good talk and rarely good action. But even good talk is ultra rare among U.S. Presidents. So I appreciate it ... while continuing to demand much more.

Um, so far, approaching the half-century mark, my demands have yet to be met. So I've learned to be just a little bit satisfied with the good talk.

Bully Pulpit and all that.

alphabassettgrrl · 07-18-2009, 07:45 AM

Talk is easy, but at least he talks the right stuff.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-18-2009, 08:52 AM

I finally remembered to post this:

The Obamameter

This is done by the St. Petersburg Times. What I find really interesting is what they're saying about gay issues. DADT, DOMA.

I guess they don't call it a promise broken unless he actually does the opposite. But they admit he took the language off his website...hmm.

Even if you count those as broken promises, the numbers are still surprisingly good. 32 promises kept, 10 compromises, 9 promises broken (incl DADT/DOMA), 10 stalled, 78 in the works.

Makes me wonder how the other presidents stacked up.

alphabassettgrrl · 07-18-2009, 09:01 AM

CP- that site is on my "check daily" set of bookmarks. Always interesting to watch his progress. I do wonder how previous presidents rank.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-21-2009, 10:17 PM

So, I assume that all those here that are pissed at Obama about the gay rights stuff would disagree with the St. Petersburg Times on this?

Personally, I heard this story today and was horrified, and it's not mentioned on the site, so I sent them an email. I'm unsure if it counts as a campaign promise though.

innerSpaceman · 07-22-2009, 09:32 AM

In other disappointing Obama news today: In a continuation of Bush policy, he's refusing to reveal which 18 Health Insurance Industry executives he met with to consult on health care policy. Gee, Dick Cheney and Energy executives much?

Lawsuit will proceed to get the records. Obama, you are really beginning to suck and be power-mad way earlier than I feared. Hahaha, his personal physicial of 18 years just came out against Obama's health plan and staunchly in favor of single-payer ... d'uh, like overwhelmly most Americans.

07-16-2009, 08:35 PM	#22
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Thanks for that, G.C. That was very moving. Maybe not the fierce kind, but I'll grant that was clearlly some advocating.
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07-17-2009, 04:41 AM	#23
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Politician speak. Obama says much on many things and is a master of rhetoric.
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07-17-2009, 08:24 AM	#25
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Clinton was the same way. All good talk and rarely good action. But even good talk is ultra rare among U.S. Presidents. So I appreciate it ... while continuing to demand much more. Um, so far, approaching the half-century mark, my demands have yet to be met. So I've learned to be just a little bit satisfied with the good talk. Bully Pulpit and all that.
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07-18-2009, 07:45 AM	#26
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Talk is easy, but at least he talks the right stuff. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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07-18-2009, 08:52 AM	#27
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	I finally remembered to post this: The Obamameter This is done by the St. Petersburg Times. What I find really interesting is what they're saying about gay issues. DADT, DOMA. I guess they don't call it a promise broken unless he actually does the opposite. But they admit he took the language off his website...hmm. Even if you count those as broken promises, the numbers are still surprisingly good. 32 promises kept, 10 compromises, 9 promises broken (incl DADT/DOMA), 10 stalled, 78 in the works. Makes me wonder how the other presidents stacked up.
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07-18-2009, 09:01 AM	#28
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	CP- that site is on my "check daily" set of bookmarks. Always interesting to watch his progress. I do wonder how previous presidents rank. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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07-21-2009, 10:17 PM	#29
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	So, I assume that all those here that are pissed at Obama about the gay rights stuff would disagree with the St. Petersburg Times on this? Personally, I heard this story today and was horrified, and it's not mentioned on the site, so I sent them an email. I'm unsure if it counts as a campaign promise though. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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07-22-2009, 09:32 AM	#30
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	In other disappointing Obama news today: In a continuation of Bush policy, he's refusing to reveal which 18 Health Insurance Industry executives he met with to consult on health care policy. Gee, Dick Cheney and Energy executives much? Lawsuit will proceed to get the records. Obama, you are really beginning to suck and be power-mad way earlier than I feared. Hahaha, his personal physicial of 18 years just came out against Obama's health plan and staunchly in favor of single-payer ... d'uh, like overwhelmly most Americans.
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