GRRRRR- this crap pisses me off - Page 3

Nephythys · 07-01-2009, 12:52 PM

*sigh*

Back to the OP-
Ya know what makes it worse (if it can be) is that this guy was in the Middle East-and frankly is in more danger there...at least as far as physical harm. They execute gays over there (in some places)-and yet he is willing to put himself in harms way in so many ways to serve his country- and his country would kick him out for being gay.

Lame...and oh so wrong.

Snowflake · 07-01-2009, 12:55 PM

I thought The Parking Lot was to keep spiders and such from trolling stuff, as well as keeping the non-swank discussions our of the swank threads.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-01-2009, 01:06 PM

If you'd like us to reconsider our policies, might I suggest that "I'm lobbing this out here. Y'all either deal with it or do what I ask," isn't the best way to go about it. A PM discussing it would have been a nice place to start.

No decision has been made yet. I'll tell you right now that my inclination is to continue all of our current policies, moving this thread into either Daily Grind or Parking LoT.

As for the other prop 8 thread, as Gn2dlnd points out, the content of the thread remains in there, whether it's actively being discussed or not. I suppose we could split the thread off. Or someone can just start a new one back in Daily Grind.

Nephythys · 07-01-2009, 02:02 PM

I was not aware this would cause such a problem- it is not the first political/opinion discussion in this forum and given that I wanted to bring it up with this community and do not have access to those forums this seemed harmless.

I am not demanding a change to your policies and would not have thought this needed a PM discussion to discuss the topic.

Do as you need to-I am just sorry that if you move it I can't join in on a discussion I felt passionate enough to discuss in the first place.

Cheers.

innerSpaceman · 07-01-2009, 02:25 PM

Oi, yes, with apologies to mousepad, I meant Mice Chat of course. I in no way equate the two. Sorry for the brain freeze.

innerSpaceman · 07-01-2009, 02:30 PM

I'm not demanding a change to the policies either.

I'm just wondering where to start my new gay rights thread. Neph seems perfectly able to discuss such things maturely, so I hesitate to place it where it seems most to belong, namely, the Daily Grind ... because it would seems lame to start a thread inspired by Nephy that she can't participate in.

innerSpaceman · 07-01-2009, 02:34 PM

For my third post in a row, another apology.

I'm sorry if I seem to be derailing to LoT business rather than discuss the topic at hand. It's just that in my circles, and to me personally, Dan Choi's story is played out and I've got so little left to say about it.

I've met him a few times. He's a wonderful guy, and an inspiring public speaker. He double-entendred me once, and I felt such a gay bond with him, hahaha.

He was giving a version of the same speech twice in one day (the day of the Supreme Court decision). At a smaller daytime rally in East L.A., he gave such an impassioned and lengthy presentation. At the huge rally in West Hollywood, he shortened it quite a bit.

After he came off the stage, I told him I enjoyed it .... but I prefer the longer one. He replies, "Yeah, I've heard that about you."

Gn2Dlnd · 07-01-2009, 02:51 PM

That's what she said!

had to

Nephythys · 07-01-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

For my third post in a row, another apology.

I'm sorry if I seem to be derailing to LoT business rather than discuss the topic at hand. It's just that in my circles, and to me personally, Dan Choi's story is played out and I've got so little left to say about it.

ahh, of course you would know more than I....I just saw the article today. A few weeks ago I vented to Cherny and GC about the DOMA issue in PM.

I do have a story- I spoke with the woman who won the biggest judgement against the company she worked for (in her state) because they harassed and demoted her and then fired her for being gay. They have made it impossible to find a new job because people are reluctant to hire her due to the publicity. Her relationship with her son has suffered as well.....I wish her all the very best. Her battle was huge and I hope that in the end she finds justice and peace-

innerSpaceman · 07-01-2009, 06:31 PM

That no one can really remember how the gay threads got to the Parking Lot in the first place is reason enough, imo, to move the surviving one out of there.

I wasn't the OP on that one ("Fallout"). It started with S.Maniac recounting how his game night had fallen apart and wondering about what other personal fallout people had experienced. Hardly seems like Parking Lot material to me, but I can't claim to know what was on his mind at the time.

In any event, though my memory's not the best by any stretch, I believe one or more of the preceding Prop 8 threads got moved to the Parking Lot, and perhaps one reason those didn't survive the transition were because of some nastiness within.

I just think it's time we pulled the ongoing discussion out of there. I started a thread in the Lounge ... though I suppose the Daily Grind might have been more appropriate. It's a toss-up. I've always regretted, for example, that gay marriage ... which should be about love ... is considered all about politics.

But I admit ... Neph's supportive philosophy expressed in this thread led me to err on the side of putting the new thread where she'd be allowed to participate. This very thread itself is arguable political. Don't Ask Don't Tell is a government policy about the U.S. Military.

Heheh, Keith Olbermann said Obama was "goddamn wrong" about his stance on DADT. Um, yeah, 75% of the American People think the policy should be repealed. Obama says he agrees. He can stop the losses (over 260 since he took office alone) with the stroke of a pen. I call that cowardly and craven.

When Eisenhower integrated the armed services, only 12% of Americans were in favor of that. The right thing to do is the right thing to do.

07-01-2009, 12:52 PM	#21
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	sigh Back to the OP- Ya know what makes it worse (if it can be) is that this guy was in the Middle East-and frankly is in more danger there...at least as far as physical harm. They execute gays over there (in some places)-and yet he is willing to put himself in harms way in so many ways to serve his country- and his country would kick him out for being gay. Lame...and oh so wrong.
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07-01-2009, 12:55 PM	#22
Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	I thought The Parking Lot was to keep spiders and such from trolling stuff, as well as keeping the non-swank discussions our of the swank threads.
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07-01-2009, 01:06 PM	#23
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	If you'd like us to reconsider our policies, might I suggest that "I'm lobbing this out here. Y'all either deal with it or do what I ask," isn't the best way to go about it. A PM discussing it would have been a nice place to start. No decision has been made yet. I'll tell you right now that my inclination is to continue all of our current policies, moving this thread into either Daily Grind or Parking LoT. As for the other prop 8 thread, as Gn2dlnd points out, the content of the thread remains in there, whether it's actively being discussed or not. I suppose we could split the thread off. Or someone can just start a new one back in Daily Grind. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-01-2009, 02:02 PM	#24
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	I was not aware this would cause such a problem- it is not the first political/opinion discussion in this forum and given that I wanted to bring it up with this community and do not have access to those forums this seemed harmless. I am not demanding a change to your policies and would not have thought this needed a PM discussion to discuss the topic. Do as you need to-I am just sorry that if you move it I can't join in on a discussion I felt passionate enough to discuss in the first place. Cheers.
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07-01-2009, 02:25 PM	#25
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oi, yes, with apologies to mousepad, I meant Mice Chat of course. I in no way equate the two. Sorry for the brain freeze.
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07-01-2009, 02:30 PM	#26
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I'm not demanding a change to the policies either. I'm just wondering where to start my new gay rights thread. Neph seems perfectly able to discuss such things maturely, so I hesitate to place it where it seems most to belong, namely, the Daily Grind ... because it would seems lame to start a thread inspired by Nephy that she can't participate in.
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07-01-2009, 02:34 PM	#27
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	For my third post in a row, another apology. I'm sorry if I seem to be derailing to LoT business rather than discuss the topic at hand. It's just that in my circles, and to me personally, Dan Choi's story is played out and I've got so little left to say about it. I've met him a few times. He's a wonderful guy, and an inspiring public speaker. He double-entendred me once, and I felt such a gay bond with him, hahaha. He was giving a version of the same speech twice in one day (the day of the Supreme Court decision). At a smaller daytime rally in East L.A., he gave such an impassioned and lengthy presentation. At the huge rally in West Hollywood, he shortened it quite a bit. After he came off the stage, I told him I enjoyed it .... but I prefer the longer one. He replies, "Yeah, I've heard that about you."
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07-01-2009, 02:51 PM	#28
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	That's what she said! had to __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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07-01-2009, 06:31 PM	#30
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	That no one can really remember how the gay threads got to the Parking Lot in the first place is reason enough, imo, to move the surviving one out of there. I wasn't the OP on that one ("Fallout"). It started with S.Maniac recounting how his game night had fallen apart and wondering about what other personal fallout people had experienced. Hardly seems like Parking Lot material to me, but I can't claim to know what was on his mind at the time. In any event, though my memory's not the best by any stretch, I believe one or more of the preceding Prop 8 threads got moved to the Parking Lot, and perhaps one reason those didn't survive the transition were because of some nastiness within. I just think it's time we pulled the ongoing discussion out of there. I started a thread in the Lounge ... though I suppose the Daily Grind might have been more appropriate. It's a toss-up. I've always regretted, for example, that gay marriage ... which should be about love ... is considered all about politics. But I admit ... Neph's supportive philosophy expressed in this thread led me to err on the side of putting the new thread where she'd be allowed to participate. This very thread itself is arguable political. Don't Ask Don't Tell is a government policy about the U.S. Military. Heheh, Keith Olbermann said Obama was "goddamn wrong" about his stance on DADT. Um, yeah, 75% of the American People think the policy should be repealed. Obama says he agrees. He can stop the losses (over 260 since he took office alone) with the stroke of a pen. I call that cowardly and craven. When Eisenhower integrated the armed services, only 12% of Americans were in favor of that. The right thing to do is the right thing to do.
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