Katrina Response Mismanagement - Page 30

SacTown Chronic · 09-17-2005, 01:31 PM

So where's the rollback of welfare for wealthy people, er, I mean Bush tax cuts, to pay for the huge no-bid gifts to Halliburton and friends, er, I mean giant reconstruction effort?

Fvcking crooks and liars, man. Crooks and liars.

scaeagles · 09-17-2005, 01:55 PM

RE: Halliburton. This is often a rallying cry for those that oppose Bush and the administration. I have two honest issues about that - I'm really not trying to be a smarta$$ (at least not this time) -

Was it OK for Clinton to give a no-bid contract to Halliburton? If so, why?

How many companies are capable fo doing what Halliburton does? Does it make sense to take the time to put this particular job - if someone else is capable of doing it - out to the process of a government bid? Do you know how long that takes? If it were put out to bid, it would take months, so absolutely nothing relating to what Halliburton does would be getting worked on.

Name · 09-17-2005, 01:59 PM

And since Haliburton does just about everything within their umbrella of sub-companies, well, who needs to ask for bids for any project, just give Halliburton the no-bid contract.

SacTown Chronic · 09-17-2005, 03:16 PM

Did Clinton start a war and then give no-bid contracts for rebuilding the conquered country to his Veep's company?

Did Clinton demote a whistleblower who spoke out against the improper awarding of no-bid contracts to the Veep's company?

Did Clinton suspend the prevailing wage law right before giving no-bid reconstruction contracts to his Veep's company?

Did Clinton's head of FEMA resign his post and start a company that provides business opportunities in Iraq?

Clinton...Clinton...Clinton. I need a BJ.

scaeagles · 09-17-2005, 05:56 PM

Sac - chill out. I'm not picking on Clinton. I only ask because it isn't only the Bush administration that has awarded no bid contracts to Halliburton. I had no problem with it then, and I have no problem with it now, particularly under these circumstances. Government bids take too long in certain circumstances. I know - I've bid on government contracts before and it is a long, arduous process.

PanTheMan · 09-17-2005, 06:04 PM

Halliburton has been a sore point as VICE PRESIDENT DICK still recieves $150,000 a year in 'Deferred Payments" from them in some sort of loophole, even though ethically it is a conflict of intrest. But "Ethics" are a rather elusive topic among politicians.

IF Clinton ever gave a contract to Halliburton (When Chaney was LEGALLY employed by them) it would not have been a problem as there were no direct ties to the Clinton administration.

The DEM Equivelant would have been if CLINTON offered a housing construction contract to WHITEWATER land development inc!!!! Can you imagine the GOP Hellstorm that would have poured out upon Clinton for that?

In Other WEIRD news , KARL ROVE was put in charge of overseeing cleanup and rebuilding expected to take until 2015???? Sounds like a nifty way to make sure he is on a payroll, long after Bushie is back shoveling cow turds in Crawford. What in the F does he know about "Clean-up and rebuilding"??? Just another Bush-Cronie job handout. Will he ever learn?

SacTown Chronic · 09-17-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'm not picking on Clinton.

I love it when you pick on Clinton. But when you defend Bush by using Clinton...eh, not so much.

(But I loved it when you defended Dubya by bashing Bush 41 and FEMA)

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I need a BJ.

Oops, wrong thread. Crystal doesn't read many political threads.

Maybe I should try flowers?

wendybeth · 09-18-2005, 08:40 PM

Well, the FEMA mismanagement continues, and hits close to home:Help turned away

PanTheMan · 09-18-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Well, the FEMA mismanagement continues, and hits close to home:Help turned away

Well i agree it will take a bit of time to iron out the kinks, however i feel the guy they have now will get the job done. I have great faith that the Coast Guard has the best of experience working in these situations.

Crystal · 09-19-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Oops, wrong thread. Crystal doesn't read many political threads.
Maybe I should try flowers?

You better be glad I didn't see this sooner, otherwise I'd a been holdin' out for some flowers....next time, however...

09-17-2005, 01:31 PM	#291
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	So where's the rollback of welfare for wealthy people, er, I mean Bush tax cuts, to pay for the huge no-bid gifts to Halliburton and friends, er, I mean giant reconstruction effort? Fvcking crooks and liars, man. Crooks and liars.
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09-17-2005, 01:55 PM	#292
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	RE: Halliburton. This is often a rallying cry for those that oppose Bush and the administration. I have two honest issues about that - I'm really not trying to be a smarta$$ (at least not this time) - Was it OK for Clinton to give a no-bid contract to Halliburton? If so, why? How many companies are capable fo doing what Halliburton does? Does it make sense to take the time to put this particular job - if someone else is capable of doing it - out to the process of a government bid? Do you know how long that takes? If it were put out to bid, it would take months, so absolutely nothing relating to what Halliburton does would be getting worked on.
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09-17-2005, 01:59 PM	#293
Name Title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: here Posts: 779	And since Haliburton does just about everything within their umbrella of sub-companies, well, who needs to ask for bids for any project, just give Halliburton the no-bid contract. __________________ Signature Last edited by Name : 09-17-2005 at 02:00 PM. Reason: not based on any facts, purley speculatory. I just know they do many many different things, and assume they do almost everything.
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09-17-2005, 03:16 PM	#294
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Did Clinton start a war and then give no-bid contracts for rebuilding the conquered country to his Veep's company? Did Clinton demote a whistleblower who spoke out against the improper awarding of no-bid contracts to the Veep's company? Did Clinton suspend the prevailing wage law right before giving no-bid reconstruction contracts to his Veep's company? Did Clinton's head of FEMA resign his post and start a company that provides business opportunities in Iraq? Clinton...Clinton...Clinton. I need a BJ.
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09-17-2005, 05:56 PM	#295
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Sac - chill out. I'm not picking on Clinton. I only ask because it isn't only the Bush administration that has awarded no bid contracts to Halliburton. I had no problem with it then, and I have no problem with it now, particularly under these circumstances. Government bids take too long in certain circumstances. I know - I've bid on government contracts before and it is a long, arduous process.
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09-17-2005, 06:04 PM	#296
PanTheMan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere between you, and just over there. Posts: 258	Halliburton has been a sore point as VICE PRESIDENT DICK still recieves $150,000 a year in 'Deferred Payments" from them in some sort of loophole, even though ethically it is a conflict of intrest. But "Ethics" are a rather elusive topic among politicians. IF Clinton ever gave a contract to Halliburton (When Chaney was LEGALLY employed by them) it would not have been a problem as there were no direct ties to the Clinton administration. The DEM Equivelant would have been if CLINTON offered a housing construction contract to WHITEWATER land development inc!!!! Can you imagine the GOP Hellstorm that would have poured out upon Clinton for that? In Other WEIRD news , KARL ROVE was put in charge of overseeing cleanup and rebuilding expected to take until 2015???? Sounds like a nifty way to make sure he is on a payroll, long after Bushie is back shoveling cow turds in Crawford. What in the F does he know about "Clean-up and rebuilding"??? Just another Bush-Cronie job handout. Will he ever learn? __________________ What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about? .... Last edited by PanTheMan : 09-17-2005 at 06:12 PM.
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09-18-2005, 08:40 PM	#298
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Well, the FEMA mismanagement continues, and hits close to home:Help turned away __________________
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