CA Supreme Court to rule on Gay Marriage today (5/15) at 10:00am

[Chernabog]

Best Yahoo News comment on Aiken coming out:

13. hollaatrgurl - Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:18pm PDT
It's like Michael Jackson all over again...without the monkey, or child molestation, of course.

lmao... the interwebs are funny!!!

[Moonliner]

FYI...

Wikileaks has this about the LDS church and prop-8

[Ghoulish Delight]

LA City council had a procedural vote yesterday that set their official position as against Prop 8.

[Kevy Baby]

I have been meaning to look this up, but I just don't have the time.

I was listening to some people who say that if Prop 8 passes, that their church can be sued if they refuse to marry homosexuals. On the surface, this sounds like hogwash, but I can see some potential (legal) validity to this.

Anybody got any info on this?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I have been meaning to look this up, but I just don't have the time.

I was listening to some people who say that if Prop 8 passes, that their church can be sued if they refuse to marry homosexuals. On the surface, this sounds like hogwash, but I can see some potential (legal) validity to this.

Anybody got any info on this?

But now that I think about it, tell them that they're right. That if prop 8 passes, their church will be overun by the gay and they will all go to jail if all members of the congregation don't immediately begin having gay sex.

No on 8!

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I have been meaning to look this up, but I just don't have the time.

I was listening to some people who say that if Prop 8 passes, that their church can be sued if they refuse to marry homosexuals. On the surface, this sounds like hogwash, but I can see some potential (legal) validity to this.

Anybody got any info on this?

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There is an important difference between religious marriage and civil marriage. Religious groups and clergy members have a constitutionally protected right to recognize or refuse to recognize religious marriages based on the tenets of their particular faith. That has not changed and will not change (if Prop 8 is voted down). But the government can't treat same-sex couples differently when issuing civil marriage licenses or solemnizing civil marriages.

[Morrigoon]

The government cannot interfere with the free practice of religion. I can't walk in wearing a reversed cross and a "love satan" t-shirt and expect them to want to baptise me, KWIM?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Um, I assume you mean if Prop 8 doesn't pass. If it does pass, it will be against the California constitution for people of the same sex to get married, so I can't imagine having it pass would lead to church's getting sued.

If you meant if it doesn't pass, then that's the situation we're in now, where the state recognizes same sex marriages. In that case I don't know what the case would be, but the supreme court of the state ruled that the state must recognize marriages between same sex couples, not that anyone would be forced to perform the service so I can't imagine anyone winning such a suit.

[innerSpaceman]

No of course that's hogwash, Kevy. And blatant LDS propaganda.


Government officials will have to mary queers, churches will not.



By the way, I will be coming out of wedding officiant retirement to perform gay weddings if Prop 8 fails. But I can't be sued for not performing straight weddings.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Um, I assume you mean if Prop 8 doesn't pass.

DOH! Yes, you are correct.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

No of course that's hogwash, Kevy. And blatant LDS propaganda.

I figured as much, but I wanted wanted to make sure I wasn't losing my mind (okay, that DID happen a long time ago). And I know that one of the two callers I heard did specifically say they were LDS.