The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 311

innerSpaceman · 05-20-2008, 02:42 PM

He caved instantly on his stance for negotiating with our enemies when halfassedly attacked on that position by John McCain. If he's going to drop his principals with so little cause ... I want him to drop his pants and bend over for the insertion of my alarming package.

Because this kind of behavior makes him a bitch.

Alex · 05-20-2008, 03:01 PM

Ok, I missed something because I've only seen him defending that and getting a fair amount of flack for it.

innerSpaceman · 05-20-2008, 03:49 PM

I'm too lazy to paraphrase ...

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Originally Posted by Joe Klein, Time Magazine

Obama responded quickly and definitely to McCain’s attack. He told Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, "I’ve repeatedly condemned [Hamas]. I’ve repeatedly said ... since [Hamas] is a terrorist organization, we should not be dealing with them until they recognize Israel, renounce terrorism and abide by previous agreements." To reinforce this message, Obama dropped Robert Malley of the International Crisis Group from his list of advisors. Malley’s offense had been to meet with Hamas leaders. Given the ICG’s mission - the peaceful, negotiated resolution of conflicts - Malley would not have been doing his job if he hadn’t met with Hamas. And given Obama’s oft-stated position that we should be talking to all parties in the region, the Illinois Senator’s position on Hamas can only be considered a sad abandonment of principles.

sleepyjeff · 05-20-2008, 04:43 PM

^He's moving away from the Primary campaign and the left.

Time to seize the middle......not a small task considering his foe has been there his whole career.

wendybeth · 05-20-2008, 10:39 PM

Hillary is in the middle?

Ohhhh....."his". Do you mean McCain? He's hardly a foe. He's toast, and you know it. Even you guys don't want him.

sleepyjeff · 05-21-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Hillary is in the middle?

Ohhhh....."his". Do you mean McCain? He's hardly a foe. He's toast, and you know it. Even you guys don't want him.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp200...aps/May18.html

I'd hardly call him "toast" at this point.

You are right though, I don't want him....but given the choice between two things you don't want don't you pick the one that is the least objectionable to you? Assuming you voted for Kerry 4 years ago....did you vote for him because you liked him or was there some other force compelling you to make that choice

wendybeth · 05-21-2008, 12:31 AM

McCain is going to lose. You know it, I know it- even Faux-News knows it. Limbaugh's Operation Push against Obama only confirmed that he knows it as well.

Oh, and I voted for Kerry because I didn't think Bush was a good alternative. I think events have proved that to be so. I didn't vote for him because he was a Dem, that's for sure. If there was a Republican candidate with a moderate stance on the issues and the ability to string together a semi-intelligent sentence, I would have voted for him/her. There wasn't.

sleepyjeff · 05-21-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

McCain is going to lose. You know it, I know it- even Faux-News knows it. Limbaugh's Operation Push against Obama only confirmed that he knows it as well.

He might lose, I just don't see any evidence out there to convince me he's "toast" just yet....

However, if he does lose I can look back to this post and say, "see, I allowed for the possiblilty that he could lose"..........if he wins though, what will you say?

Ghoulish Delight · 05-23-2008, 11:26 AM

Okay, I hate the chain letter antics at the end of this video, but otherwise it pretty much says exactly what I think about McCain.

http://therealmccain.com/

BDBopper · 05-23-2008, 11:37 AM

A few weeks ago I wrote the following at my blog:

http://ohbabythatswhatilike.blogspot...or-lesser.html

My dad and I are in disagreement on this end. He voted for Perot twice and regrets it and says that in doing so he wasted his vote. I disagree. However he is a realist and I am an idealist. I believe voting for someone because he is the lesser of two evils is throwing your vote away. It is interesting though that we did not talk about this until just now. That's why it crossed my mind again.

Do you think I am right or a complete moron?

05-20-2008, 02:42 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	He caved instantly on his stance for negotiating with our enemies when halfassedly attacked on that position by John McCain. If he's going to drop his principals with so little cause ... I want him to drop his pants and bend over for the insertion of my alarming package. Because this kind of behavior makes him a bitch.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Ok, I missed something because I've only seen him defending that and getting a fair amount of flack for it.
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sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	^He's moving away from the Primary campaign and the left. Time to seize the middle......not a small task considering his foe has been there his whole career. __________________ River Guardian-less
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Hillary is in the middle? Ohhhh....."his". Do you mean McCain? He's hardly a foe. He's toast, and you know it. Even you guys don't want him. __________________
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05-21-2008, 12:31 AM	#7
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	McCain is going to lose. You know it, I know it- even Faux-News knows it. Limbaugh's Operation Push against Obama only confirmed that he knows it as well. Oh, and I voted for Kerry because I didn't think Bush was a good alternative. I think events have proved that to be so. I didn't vote for him because he was a Dem, that's for sure. If there was a Republican candidate with a moderate stance on the issues and the ability to string together a semi-intelligent sentence, I would have voted for him/her. There wasn't. __________________
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05-23-2008, 11:26 AM	#9
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Okay, I hate the chain letter antics at the end of this video, but otherwise it pretty much says exactly what I think about McCain. http://therealmccain.com/ __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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05-23-2008, 11:37 AM	#10
BDBopper Not Taking Any Crap! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cleaning Up America, One Step At A Time! Posts: 1,694	A few weeks ago I wrote the following at my blog: http://ohbabythatswhatilike.blogspot...or-lesser.html My dad and I are in disagreement on this end. He voted for Perot twice and regrets it and says that in doing so he wasted his vote. I disagree. However he is a realist and I am an idealist. I believe voting for someone because he is the lesser of two evils is throwing your vote away. It is interesting though that we did not talk about this until just now. That's why it crossed my mind again. Do you think I am right or a complete moron?
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