The Schiavo issue - Page 32

Ghoulish Delight · 06-15-2005, 01:33 PM

The brain is highly adaptive, especially when it comes to the senses. It's very possible that even if the vision centers were dead, neighboring areas eventually adapted to process at least a portion of the visual data her retinas would have still been receiving.

Scrooge McSam · 06-15-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The brain is highly adaptive, especially when it comes to the senses. It's very possible that even if the vision centers were dead, neighboring areas eventually adapted to process at least a portion of the visual data her retinas would have still been receiving.

My understanding earlier was that her cerebral cortex was gone. If that turns out not to be true, what you suggest is possible.

But if the cortex is gone, I don't see how vision would be possible.

MickeyLumbo · 06-15-2005, 06:56 PM

please post my autopsy report when i'm gone

Prudence · 06-15-2005, 05:02 PM

They also said her brain was half the size it should have been. And the medical examiner said, "This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."

wendybeth · 06-15-2005, 05:41 PM

Well, it's just a darn good thing they killed her, then! I mean, half a brain? Blind? She was obviously just taking up space.

Sorry- but I still have problems with their methodology and such, and stating that she had severe impairments does nothing to change that.

MickeyD · 06-15-2005, 07:28 PM

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Sorry- but I still have problems with their methodology and such, and stating that she had severe impairments does nothing to change that.

No, but regardless of what people think of Michael Schiavo, the autopsy report does verify that the impairments were there and a) even if her parents had been sucessfully able to administer food and water to her by mouth, she would not have been able to swallow, and b) absolutely no amount of therapy would have improved her condition, as was asserted by her parents.

wendybeth · 06-15-2005, 09:52 PM

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No, but regardless of what people think of Michael Schiavo, the autopsy report does verify that the impairments were there and a) even if her parents had been sucessfully able to administer food and water to her by mouth, she would not have been able to swallow, and b) absolutely no amount of therapy would have improved her condition, as was asserted by her parents.

It is interesting how there doesn't appear to be any mention as to whether or not she could feel pain- I've only read that she had half her brain mass. If her brain stem truly was decimated, why didn't they clarify that? Anyone's brain will atrophy after so many years of non- stimulation. Also, is Micheal going to pay back the doc he won all that money from for not diagnosing a non-existant ailment? THere are quite a few Alzheimer's patients that fit the above description- perhaps we should just stop feeding them as well? By the time they pass, they have almost no brain function, yet no one seems to be rushing out to off the old folks.

MickeyD · 06-15-2005, 10:40 PM

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THere are quite a few Alzheimer's patients that fit the above description- perhaps we should just stop feeding them as well? By the time they pass, they have almost no brain function, yet no one seems to be rushing out to off the old folks.

Not "off" in my definition, but many next of kin of those old folks will state "no extrordinary measures." My paternal grandmother had Alzheimer's before she died, and yes, my family considered a feeding tube to be extrodinary measures. Did we "off" her? Not in my book. You're entitled to your opinion, though.

Gn2Dlnd · 06-15-2005, 05:40 PM

No, she was definitely a veg. But it's possible that she responded to visual stimuli.

scaeagles · 06-15-2005, 08:22 PM

I am saddened that this is in the news again, quite frankly.

Interestingly, though, from what I understand, there is no evidence of a heart attack or of an eating disorder, as was previously thought to be the cause of her brain damage. So I do woinder what caused it....but not that much, really. It was a sad, sad, chapter in the news cycle an of the people close to the situation on every side, and i wish it would just stop.

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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	The brain is highly adaptive, especially when it comes to the senses. It's very possible that even if the vision centers were dead, neighboring areas eventually adapted to process at least a portion of the visual data her retinas would have still been receiving. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Well, it's just a darn good thing they killed her, then! I mean, half a brain? Blind? She was obviously just taking up space. Sorry- but I still have problems with their methodology and such, and stating that she had severe impairments does nothing to change that. __________________
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Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	No, she was definitely a veg. But it's possible that she responded to visual stimuli. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I am saddened that this is in the news again, quite frankly. Interestingly, though, from what I understand, there is no evidence of a heart attack or of an eating disorder, as was previously thought to be the cause of her brain damage. So I do woinder what caused it....but not that much, really. It was a sad, sad, chapter in the news cycle an of the people close to the situation on every side, and i wish it would just stop.
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