Prop 8 Protest Information Thread - Page 33

lashbear · 11-18-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

I pronounce it to rhyme with "bam" or "jam".

Me too.... but it sounds better with a drawling southern accent - thus, "Vayam" or "Vayum" depending on how you spell fonetikly

Kevy Baby · 11-18-2008, 04:56 PM

Candorville is on a roll

innerSpaceman · 11-18-2008, 05:02 PM

Please stop posting those, Kevy. My blood pressure can't handle it.

Morrigoon · 11-18-2008, 05:03 PM

iSm: outreach is what's needed right now. If those comics make even a few people change their minds, that's a few more people you need to support your rights. You should be encouraged that someone is out there trying to change the minds most needing changing.

Gemini Cricket · 11-18-2008, 05:14 PM

I like them, too. I wonder if Bell will dedicate the whole week to the subject.

wendybeth · 11-18-2008, 05:16 PM

Morri hit it on the head- people need to be confronted with their prejudices before any changes in attitudes will be made. No one is comfortable admitting that they have a problem with bias or racism, least of all people who have suffered from such things themselves. Holding a mirror up is a good thing- maybe if they don't like what they see in it they will change.

Gemini Cricket · 11-18-2008, 05:23 PM

I read an interesting comment at the bottom of one of the hundreds of online articles I read about Prop 8. It went something like this: A woman's parents were giving her a hard time about Prop 8 and why it was so important for two female friends of theirs to call their union a marriage. The woman pointed out to them that after 15 years of commitment they were more than just girlfriends. So the woman asked her parents what if she decided not to acknowledge their (her parents') marriage any more. She started referring to her father as her mom's boyfriend and her mom as her dad's friend. They were offended at that saying that after 40 some odd years they deserved to be called husband and wife. She then pointed out that it was the same for their lesbian friends. No different. She said that this discussion with her parents started them thinking differently about the subject. I thought that was great.

innerSpaceman · 11-18-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

iSm: outreach is what's needed right now. If those comics make even a few people change their minds, that's a few more people you need to support your rights. You should be encouraged that someone is out there trying to change the minds most needing changing.

See, I don't see them as outreach. I see them as scolding. Black people are not going to be convinced by scolding them or telling them what disgusting hypocrits they are.

Now, granted, I'm not the one to be doing the outreach. But I can certainly tell you why that is.

Those comics are NOT outreach.

Gemini Cricket · 11-18-2008, 05:34 PM

I disagree. I see them as outreach. Mr. Bell is African American and is making a commentary about the Yes votes on 8. I think it's great.

Alex · 11-18-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

See, I don't see them as outreach. I see them as scolding. Black people are not going to be convinced by scolding them or telling them what disgusting hypocrits they are.

Even if that's all it is, is this scolding any less appropriate than scolding Mormons and members of Saddleback Chruch by standing outside their temples and press conferences chanting and holding signs?

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	iSm: outreach is what's needed right now. If those comics make even a few people change their minds, that's a few more people you need to support your rights. You should be encouraged that someone is out there trying to change the minds most needing changing. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I like them, too. I wonder if Bell will dedicate the whole week to the subject.
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11-18-2008, 05:16 PM	#326
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Morri hit it on the head- people need to be confronted with their prejudices before any changes in attitudes will be made. No one is comfortable admitting that they have a problem with bias or racism, least of all people who have suffered from such things themselves. Holding a mirror up is a good thing- maybe if they don't like what they see in it they will change. __________________
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11-18-2008, 05:23 PM	#327
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I read an interesting comment at the bottom of one of the hundreds of online articles I read about Prop 8. It went something like this: A woman's parents were giving her a hard time about Prop 8 and why it was so important for two female friends of theirs to call their union a marriage. The woman pointed out to them that after 15 years of commitment they were more than just girlfriends. So the woman asked her parents what if she decided not to acknowledge their (her parents') marriage any more. She started referring to her father as her mom's boyfriend and her mom as her dad's friend. They were offended at that saying that after 40 some odd years they deserved to be called husband and wife. She then pointed out that it was the same for their lesbian friends. No different. She said that this discussion with her parents started them thinking differently about the subject. I thought that was great.
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11-18-2008, 05:34 PM	#329
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I disagree. I see them as outreach. Mr. Bell is African American and is making a commentary about the Yes votes on 8. I think it's great.
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