The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 333

scaeagles · 07-23-2008, 12:30 PM

That happened a while ago and was dropped pretty much immediately, as I recall (I didn't read the link, but I figure it's the same thing that happened about 6 months ago or so).

I'm curious, though.....turnabout for what?

Alex · 07-23-2008, 12:41 PM

What's the turn about? Has anybody called Obama's citizenship and technical qualification to be president into question?

Personally, on this issue (which came up in 2000 as well), my view is that the only reasonable way to read "natural born citizen" is anybody who was legally entitled to their citizenship simply be being born. Yeah, it is ambiguous but I agree with the sentiment at the end of the article that no court is ever going to come within a mile of overturning an election on such subtle grounds (insert Bush v. Gore jokes here).

Plus, I'd point out that the citizenship qualification is natural born citizen or citizen at time the constitution was adopted. McCain clearly meets the second qualification.

But I've also long been in favor of removing all of the qualifications listed in the constitution altogether. If a 12 year old German who has never visited the United States can successfully convince the American public to elect her president then so be it.

JWBear · 07-23-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

That happened a while ago and was dropped pretty much immediately, as I recall (I didn't read the link, but I figure it's the same thing that happened about 6 months ago or so).

I'm curious, though.....turnabout for what?

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Originally Posted by Alex

What's the turn about? Has anybody called Obama's citizenship and technical qualification to be president into question?

Personally, on this issue (which came up in 2000 as well), my view is that the only reasonable way to read "natural born citizen" is anybody who was legally entitled to their citizenship simply be being born. Yeah, it is ambiguous but I agree with the sentiment at the end of the article that no court is ever going to come within a mile of overturning an election on such subtle grounds (insert Bush v. Gore jokes here).

Plus, I'd point out that the citizenship qualification is natural born citizen or citizen at time the constitution was adopted. McCain clearly meets the second qualification.

But I've also long been in favor of removing all of the qualifications listed in the constitution altogether. If a 12 year old German who has never visited the United States can successfully convince the American public to elect her president then so be it.

Awhile ago, some conservative blogs were questioning Obama's qualifications for reasons that were even more ridiculous.

See here.

BDBopper · 08-03-2008, 08:24 AM

I am so ticked right now at the Chattering class. Over the past week they have been beating the idea into people's heads that the Huckabee supporters are bigots because we did not support the dinglecheese, Romney because Romney is a Mormon. This is complete BS and I would like to beat these morons by the side of the head with a baseball bat

BDBopper · 08-04-2008, 02:29 PM

I am Not A Bigot

Tenigma · 08-04-2008, 03:33 PM

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I am Not A Bigot

"Waiting for Bigot."

har har har.

Gemini Cricket · 08-04-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma

"Waiting for Bigot."

har har har.

Okay, I admit it. I lol'ed.

BarTopDancer · 07-31-2008, 09:20 AM

How much of Exxon's $11.68 billion profit is going to its shareholders and employees?

Alex · 07-31-2008, 09:22 AM

By definition, all of it.

Alex · 07-31-2008, 09:23 AM

Well, by definition, all of it is going to shareholders. Employee compensation is an expense and diminishes profit.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	That happened a while ago and was dropped pretty much immediately, as I recall (I didn't read the link, but I figure it's the same thing that happened about 6 months ago or so). I'm curious, though.....turnabout for what?
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	What's the turn about? Has anybody called Obama's citizenship and technical qualification to be president into question? Personally, on this issue (which came up in 2000 as well), my view is that the only reasonable way to read "natural born citizen" is anybody who was legally entitled to their citizenship simply be being born. Yeah, it is ambiguous but I agree with the sentiment at the end of the article that no court is ever going to come within a mile of overturning an election on such subtle grounds (insert Bush v. Gore jokes here). Plus, I'd point out that the citizenship qualification is natural born citizen or citizen at time the constitution was adopted. McCain clearly meets the second qualification. But I've also long been in favor of removing all of the qualifications listed in the constitution altogether. If a 12 year old German who has never visited the United States can successfully convince the American public to elect her president then so be it.
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BDBopper Not Taking Any Crap! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cleaning Up America, One Step At A Time! Posts: 1,694	I am so ticked right now at the Chattering class. Over the past week they have been beating the idea into people's heads that the Huckabee supporters are bigots because we did not support the dinglecheese, Romney because Romney is a Mormon. This is complete BS and I would like to beat these morons by the side of the head with a baseball bat
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BDBopper Not Taking Any Crap! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cleaning Up America, One Step At A Time! Posts: 1,694	I am Not A Bigot
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	By definition, all of it.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Well, by definition, all of it is going to shareholders. Employee compensation is an expense and diminishes profit.
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