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Cadaverous Pallor · 03-31-2009, 08:11 PM

I did notice the difference, but I thought, yeah, that's what they have always done. In the first season we learned about people's pasts in piecemeal flashbacks that we thought went a certain way but were later revealed to be less than full stories. Sun has flashbacks showing Jin being mean to her and coming home with blood on his hands. Jin has flashbacks and we see him under pressure from her dad, doing the dirty work and coming home with blood on his hands. Same scenes, different angles, extra dialog, more information.

sleepyjeff · 03-31-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I did notice the difference, but I thought, yeah, that's what they have always done. In the first season we learned about people's pasts in piecemeal flashbacks that we thought went a certain way but were later revealed to be less than full stories. Sun has flashbacks showing Jin being mean to her and coming home with blood on his hands. Jin has flashbacks and we see him under pressure from her dad, doing the dirty work and coming home with blood on his hands. Same scenes, different angles, extra dialog, more information.

And that probably is what this is....but this time it wasn't just extra dialog....some of the words were changed altogether.

Can you tell I love this show

BarTopDancer · 04-01-2009, 10:02 PM

DUDE (the 2nd to last scene).

Ghoulish Delight · 04-01-2009, 10:31 PM

Boooooooooooooooooo!

I, for one LIKE th new Jack.

Horrible. Horrible episode. Horrible.

It's BEN! It's freaking BEN! "Innocent child" my ass. It's fvcking Ben. Period. End of story. There is NO reason any of those three should be going to any effort to save the little fvck. It's BEN!

But alright, let's pretend I overlook that utter, absurd, ridiculous, completely fvcking stupid bullsh*t that they for some ridiculous reason care about Ben simply because he's a child, never mind that he grown up to be BEN! Let's pretend I accept the retardedly simplistic "but he's a CHILD" crap.

Yes, let's pretend.

So they find Richard. And he says, "He'll lose his innocence, you sure?"

There. Goodbye to the only SHRED of justification for them wanting to save Ben. He's not "Ben" yet, he's just an innocent boy, right? Well here's Richard telling you he'll lose his innocence. So hey, no more reason to save him, right? No more innocence, right?

No? You're going to go ahead and save his evil ass? Seirously? W. T. F.?!?!?!

Bullsh*t.

There isn't a reason in the effing world that any of them should have wanted to save Ben, child or not. Period. Bullsh*t.

scaeagles · 04-02-2009, 07:49 AM

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There isn't a reason in the effing world that any of them should have wanted to save Ben, child or not. Period. Bullsh*t.

I disagree. Sawyer and Juliet are both quite happy with the lives they currently have and have made that very clear.

Kate would never had had Aaron if it weren't for Ben.

The process of getting to where they are sucked, certainly, but those three wouldn't have traded it with where they are now.

Jack, on the other hand, doesnt want to help Ben. Obviously Sayid wants him dead. Jin.....that one is questionable as to why he rendered aid.

Ghoulish Delight · 04-02-2009, 08:04 AM

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I disagree. Sawyer and Juliet are both quite happy with the lives they currently have and have made that very clear.

Kate would never had had Aaron if it weren't for Ben.

None of which matters. Sawyer and Juliet's happy little life would be under no threat if Ben died in that operating room. He was beyond medical help and they would have suffered no consequences if he died.

But that's beside the point, because he doesn't die. That's a fact. Ben Linus grows up to become Ben Linus. So they can't kill him, they can't prevent him from being saved. That doesn't mean they have any reason to do be the ones that save him. There is no logical emotional reason for that. It's Ben.

BarTopDancer · 04-01-2009, 10:38 PM

If what happened already happened (the cleanse and other events) then it's playing out as it's supposed to happen. They aren't able to change the future.

I wonder if this event took place before or after Richard and Ben met in the jungle a few seasons ago.

It was interesting that Richard took him to Jacob's cabin, and there was a shadow in there. I heard someone say he should clear it with Charles and someone else. Did anyone catch the other name?

Ghoulish Delight · 04-01-2009, 10:47 PM

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If what happened already happened (the cleanse and other events) then it's playing out as it's supposed to happen. They aren't able to change the future.

That doesn't require them to actively do something. There is no logical motivation. They should have done nothing, and something else should have intervened to save him. For them to decide to save him is bullsh*t. Jack had it right. Don't do sh*t, if he's supposed to be saved, something will save him.

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I wonder if this event took place before or after Richard and Ben met in the jungle a few seasons ago.

After.

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It was interesting that Richard took him to Jacob's cabin, and there was a shadow in there. I heard someone say he should clear it with Charles and someone else. Did anyone catch the other name?

That wasn't Jacob's cabin, that was Smokey's temple. Just watched it again, didn't see a shadow. And the other name sounded like "Elle" as in Elle Farday.

JWBear · 04-01-2009, 10:48 PM

That wasn't Jacob's cabin, it was the Temple.

Charles (Widmore) and Elle (Mrs Hawking).

(ETA: GD beat me to it.)

JWBear · 04-01-2009, 10:52 PM

Oh... And was that a young Tom leading Kate & James to Richard?

03-31-2009, 08:11 PM	#1
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Boooooooooooooooooo! I, for one LIKE th new Jack. Horrible. Horrible episode. Horrible. It's BEN! It's freaking BEN! "Innocent child" my ass. It's fvcking Ben. Period. End of story. There is NO reason any of those three should be going to any effort to save the little fvck. It's BEN! But alright, let's pretend I overlook that utter, absurd, ridiculous, completely fvcking stupid bullsht that they for some ridiculous reason care about Ben simply because he's a child, never mind that he grown up to be BEN! Let's pretend I accept the retardedly simplistic "but he's a CHILD" crap. Yes, let's pretend. So they find Richard. And he says, "He'll lose his innocence, you sure?" There. Goodbye to the only SHRED of justification for them wanting to save Ben. He's not "Ben" yet, he's just an innocent boy, right? Well here's Richard telling you he'll lose his innocence. So hey, no more reason to save him, right? No more innocence, right? No? You're going to go ahead and save his evil ass? Seirously? W. T. F.?!?!?! Bullsht. There isn't a reason in the effing world that any of them should have wanted to save Ben, child or not. Period. Bullsh*t. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	If what happened already happened (the cleanse and other events) then it's playing out as it's supposed to happen. They aren't able to change the future. I wonder if this event took place before or after Richard and Ben met in the jungle a few seasons ago. It was interesting that Richard took him to Jacob's cabin, and there was a shadow in there. I heard someone say he should clear it with Charles and someone else. Did anyone catch the other name? __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	That wasn't Jacob's cabin, it was the Temple. Charles (Widmore) and Elle (Mrs Hawking). (ETA: GD beat me to it.) __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Oh... And was that a young Tom leading Kate & James to Richard? __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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