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Old 11-18-2008, 06:05 PM   #331
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I said I'm not the one for outreach.


Scolding is what I'm in the mood for. But it's not very productive.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:43 PM   #332
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I like them, too. I wonder if Bell will dedicate the whole week to the subject.
I suspect so. He usually does things like that.

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Scolding is what I'm in the mood for.
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See, I don't see them as outreach. I see them as scolding.
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:35 PM   #333
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At the urging of both sponsors and opponents of Proposition 8, the justices granted review of lawsuits challenging the Nov. 4 initiative. Approved by 52 percent of the voters, Prop. 8 restored the definition of marriage - a union of a man and a woman - that the court had overturned May 15.
In today's order, the justices let Prop. 8 remain in effect, denying a stay that would have allowed county clerks to resume issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples until the case was decided. No hearing has been scheduled.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:44 PM   #334
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When political attacks are launched from churches, political responses will be delivered to churches. If goddamned McDonald's had organized and paid for Prop 8, we'd be marching on goddamned McDonald's.
I have a feeling we may have just found iSm's next sig line.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:48 PM   #335
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Nope, though I love the sentiment. (btw, that's a Dan Savage quote, which Andrew Sullivan just happened to quote in his blog.)
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:15 PM   #336
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:23 PM   #337
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HeeHee, now that one didn't make my blood boil for some reason.


But, sigh, the series is really not helping too much with me getting over my anger at black people who are so frelling ignorant and hating and hypocritical.

It's true there wasn't enough effort to reach out to those folks and convince those on the margins that might be convinced to overcome their homophobia or that their religious beliefs were not in conflict or that their gender identity norms were due for a change .... but it's also true that shouldn't have been necessary.


Le sigh.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:42 PM   #338
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http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/s...file/prop8.htm

There is a list of all the stuff that was submitted for/against hearing Prop 8 in the Supreme Court Really good reading!
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Well-written editorial in today's LA Times.
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Many voters will claim that the courts should have no jurisdiction at all. Just as they did after the California court's May ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, these people will complain about "activist judges" potentially subverting the will of the people. Maybe schools need to strengthen their civics lessons so that future voters will understand that supreme courts specifically are charged with ruling on constitutional questions -- and it is a sacred and historic role of the courts to protect minority rights as enshrined in state and federal constitutions. Indeed, if courts merely existed to ratify the will of majorities, they would add little to our society.
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PHOTO BY BILL HUGHES
Keith Kocienski works on a sign before joining anti-Proposition 8 protesters at City Hall.
The above photo of me is from the first Vegas protest. It appeared in this week's edition of a local Vegas weekly newspaper.

Read the full Las Vegas CityLife article!
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