The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 348

sleepyjeff · 09-11-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

What?

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...32206420070801

Alex · 09-11-2008, 10:33 AM

I do seem to recall a whole lot of "oh, what a naive young child" when Obama said that if Pakistan is where bin Ladin/al Qaeda is and Pakistan isn't helping he wouldn't rule out unilateral action into Pakistan.

sleepyjeff · 09-11-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I do seem to recall a whole lot of "oh, what a naive young child" when Obama said that if Pakistan is where bin Ladin/al Qaeda is and Pakistan isn't helping he wouldn't rule out unilateral action into Pakistan.

Yes, her name was Hillary Clinton(among others)

BarTopDancer · 09-11-2008, 10:39 AM

Eh, I don't care whose idea it was to go in there (and I'd be bashing Obama if he was President and authorized this too). I don't think we're doing ourselves any favors by "raiding" (and how is that different from invading) Pakistan. It seems like we have have massive ADD when it comes to the Middle East. Let's go to Afghanistan and find the terrorists responsible for 9/11. Ok, go! OOoo there's some bad guys in Iraq. Let's go there and spread our troops out. OOO since we don't have enough on our plates lets go find bad guys in Pakistan now. Ready, set, fall apart!

Alex · 09-11-2008, 10:41 AM

True, but let's not hide McCain, and even Bush, among the "among others."

sleepyjeff · 09-11-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

True, but let's not hide McCain, and even Bush, among the "among others."

I figured they were a given.....but you have to admit no one was louder than Hillary and her supporters(still looking to see if Biden has something to say about Obama on this subject.....hard to believe he didn't).

Ghoulish Delight · 09-11-2008, 10:49 AM

I'm going to have to sit on this one.

Pakistan, our supposed ally, has not been cooperating with is on one of our more legitimate efforts. The joint chiefs just reported that the biggest threat to success in the fight against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan is the unsecured border with Pakistan. So in that regard, this is a huge leap forward for Bush - actually listening to what the people actually fighting the battles are recommending. Though the joint chiefs talked about "working more closely with Pakistan" rather than raids without permission, but permission was clearly not coming.

Heh, I'd forgotten all about Obama's comments.

JWBear · 09-11-2008, 03:39 PM

I heard about this on Air America earlier today. When will Americans finally say "enough is enough" to the Republican dirty tricks?

JWBear · 09-11-2008, 03:51 PM

Another interesting article

scaeagles · 09-11-2008, 05:26 PM

What is the evidence that the McCain campaign is behind it? Should I post links to push polling being done by the dems, or any other number of dirty tricks from the left? Would you like me to go into the story about someone who wanted me to sign a petition to get a certain proposition and they were trying to mislead me regarding what it was about (I presume it was a democrat because of what the issue was)?

Dirty tricks are played all over the political spectrum. Please don't pretend it is unique to Republicans or that the McCain campaign is behind it.

09-11-2008, 10:33 AM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I do seem to recall a whole lot of "oh, what a naive young child" when Obama said that if Pakistan is where bin Ladin/al Qaeda is and Pakistan isn't helping he wouldn't rule out unilateral action into Pakistan.
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	Eh, I don't care whose idea it was to go in there (and I'd be bashing Obama if he was President and authorized this too). I don't think we're doing ourselves any favors by "raiding" (and how is that different from invading) Pakistan. It seems like we have have massive ADD when it comes to the Middle East. Let's go to Afghanistan and find the terrorists responsible for 9/11. Ok, go! OOoo there's some bad guys in Iraq. Let's go there and spread our troops out. OOO since we don't have enough on our plates lets go find bad guys in Pakistan now. Ready, set, fall apart! __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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09-11-2008, 10:41 AM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	True, but let's not hide McCain, and even Bush, among the "among others."
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09-11-2008, 10:49 AM	#7
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'm going to have to sit on this one. Pakistan, our supposed ally, has not been cooperating with is on one of our more legitimate efforts. The joint chiefs just reported that the biggest threat to success in the fight against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan is the unsecured border with Pakistan. So in that regard, this is a huge leap forward for Bush - actually listening to what the people actually fighting the battles are recommending. Though the joint chiefs talked about "working more closely with Pakistan" rather than raids without permission, but permission was clearly not coming. Heh, I'd forgotten all about Obama's comments. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I heard about this on Air America earlier today. When will Americans finally say "enough is enough" to the Republican dirty tricks? __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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09-11-2008, 03:51 PM	#9
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Another interesting article __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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09-11-2008, 05:26 PM	#10
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	What is the evidence that the McCain campaign is behind it? Should I post links to push polling being done by the dems, or any other number of dirty tricks from the left? Would you like me to go into the story about someone who wanted me to sign a petition to get a certain proposition and they were trying to mislead me regarding what it was about (I presume it was a democrat because of what the issue was)? Dirty tricks are played all over the political spectrum. Please don't pretend it is unique to Republicans or that the McCain campaign is behind it.
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