Debates of all ilk - Page 35

Cadaverous Pallor · 10-15-2008, 06:22 PM

McCain's been watching YouTube. Joe the Plumber, heh.

"I am not President Bush."

So far, it's pretty even, but I'd give McCain the edge so far. When he's not wandering around he looks less ancient.

CoasterMatt · 10-15-2008, 06:47 PM

I think John McCain's seen the "Sarah Palin is a *unt" t-shirt.

CoasterMatt · 10-15-2008, 06:49 PM

What a maroon - Does Madman McCain not understand how many years the design/licensing of a nuclear power plant takes?

scaeagles · 10-15-2008, 08:06 PM

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What a maroon - Does Madman McCain not understand how many years the design/licensing of a nuclear power plant takes?

On this specific point, I think this is the biggest part of McCain's plan....speeding up the process. Right now it is nearly impossible to build one and fast tracking is what McCain is pushing for.

It does not require a different design for each power plant. Of course, there will be variations, but the technology does not have to be reengineered.

For the debate overall....eh, I thought McCain made better points, but he made the points that would more appeal to me. Likewise for Obama supporters and points he made.

Regardless, though, I don't think McCain did anything to change the current circumstances his campaign is in. The polling companies that make their money having accurate result, being Zogby and Rasmussen, have it at 3.8 and 5 respectively. I think there may be a half point move for McCain simply because he did better than he had and perhaps gave a bit more confidence to his doubters. And, yeah, ISM, that's the beauty of lowered expectations I suppose.

I will still not be voting for either.

The only thing left is to see which side has the biggest October surprise come out from some source that they can each distance themselves from having been involved in putting out. I would suspect that since McCain has been around in the public spotlight so much longer that one about Obama has trhe potential to be far more damaging. You know each side has something they are holding until after this last debate.

Gemini Cricket · 10-15-2008, 08:17 PM

For the first part of the debate, McCain was solid. But then he just kinda went downhill. He sounded condescending at times to Obama. It didn't play well for him.

I liked the way Obama stayed cool all the way through.

I also think that Obama's answer on Roe v Wade was great.

McCain's sighing and some of his looks to Obama were annoying. To put up the mirror, it was annoying with Gore as well.

CoasterMatt · 10-15-2008, 06:54 PM

I'd never be a good president, if some asshole talked to me like that across a table, I don't care if he's some kind of respected cripple, I'd make sure he couldn't use his mouth, either.

Cadaverous Pallor · 10-15-2008, 07:15 PM

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I'd never be a good president, if some asshole talked to me like that across a table, I don't care if he's some kind of respected cripple, I'd make sure he couldn't use his mouth, either.

Agreed, he has not hit his mark, where he claimed that he was going to change his tone and be respectful. He's still condescending, he can't help it.

I think they're going to say McCain won....not that it can help him now.

innerSpaceman · 10-15-2008, 07:30 PM

Just because McCain wasn't the total failure he was in the first two debates does not mean he won. But if he wins by lowering the bar so much by his prior poor performances that, in the words of Queen Ifil, not throwing up is considered a win ... then, um, congratulations, Mr. McCain.

Strangler Lewis · 10-15-2008, 07:36 PM

I think Obama wiped the floor with him. Every potentially reasonable thing McCain said was undermined by stupid crap that his campaign fed him: redistribution of wealth, Joe the Plumber, ACORN, Ayers and that Ralph Kramden nervousness.

Hey, Joe, Senator Obama thinks your kid should spend less of his family time playing video games.

scaeagles · 10-15-2008, 08:20 PM

And I remember the first Bush - Kerrey debate when I felt like vomiting because of how aweful Bush was making faces at Kerrey. I mean, good lord, dude, you're the POTUS.

GC, I respect so much that you are using the "mirror" thing....I think the thing that bugs me most is the my party and/or candidate is always right and infallible attitude that seems to be so pervasive in politics.

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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	For the first part of the debate, McCain was solid. But then he just kinda went downhill. He sounded condescending at times to Obama. It didn't play well for him. I liked the way Obama stayed cool all the way through. I also think that Obama's answer on Roe v Wade was great. McCain's sighing and some of his looks to Obama were annoying. To put up the mirror, it was annoying with Gore as well.
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CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	I'd never be a good president, if some asshole talked to me like that across a table, I don't care if he's some kind of respected cripple, I'd make sure he couldn't use his mouth, either. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Just because McCain wasn't the total failure he was in the first two debates does not mean he won. But if he wins by lowering the bar so much by his prior poor performances that, in the words of Queen Ifil, not throwing up is considered a win ... then, um, congratulations, Mr. McCain.
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I think Obama wiped the floor with him. Every potentially reasonable thing McCain said was undermined by stupid crap that his campaign fed him: redistribution of wealth, Joe the Plumber, ACORN, Ayers and that Ralph Kramden nervousness. Hey, Joe, Senator Obama thinks your kid should spend less of his family time playing video games. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	And I remember the first Bush - Kerrey debate when I felt like vomiting because of how aweful Bush was making faces at Kerrey. I mean, good lord, dude, you're the POTUS. GC, I respect so much that you are using the "mirror" thing....I think the thing that bugs me most is the my party and/or candidate is always right and infallible attitude that seems to be so pervasive in politics.
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