Debates of all ilk - Page 37

scaeagles · 10-16-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Would it disturb you if I said that I love you for that remark.

No, but you, ISM , and MBC might have to have some sort of slap fight over me.

mousepod · 10-15-2008, 08:29 PM

from fivethirtyeight.com

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SurveyUSA California debate-watchers: Obama 56, McCain 28.
Among California independents: Obama 55, McCain 29.
MediaCurves independents: Obama 60, McCain 30.
CNN poll from the tee-vee: Obama 58, McCain 31.
CBS undecideds: Obama 53, McCain 22.

scaeagles · 10-15-2008, 08:30 PM

With Obama riding into Jerusalem on it.

RELAX!!!!! It's a joke.

Gemini Cricket · 10-15-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

With Obama riding into Jerusalem on it.

RELAX!!!!! It's a joke.

Well, not to further the lovefest, but I found it funny.

mousepod - I seriously thought it was more even than that. I didn't feel like Obama had it in the bag... Dunno. Just my gut feeling at the time.

innerSpaceman · 10-15-2008, 08:49 PM

"Health" in finger quotes. What an azshat. I think that's gonna cost him. De womenz ain't gonna like that.

Gemini Cricket · 10-15-2008, 09:18 PM

McCain said "Freddie Mae". I know that drag queen. She's fabulous.

scaeagles · 10-16-2008, 04:54 AM

Joe the plumber has made his thoughts on the Obama tax plan known in no uncertain terms.

innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 06:44 AM

The reason the polls always tilt toward Obama even when, as happened last night, McCain does reasonably well ... is that more people just plain like Obama's demeanor and what he has to say better.

A debate is won or lost on more than just "points."

McCain got angrier and testier as the debate wore on. He may have been more controlled this time, but his 'tude is obnoxious and viewers don't like it.

The section about their respective campaigns did McCain no good. His protestations to the contrary, public perception is that his campaign is far more negative than Obama's. And perception is everything.

Obama pwnzored him about Bill Ayers and ACORN, and McCain looked like a fool when he just wouldn't let it go.

But, yeah, most damaging (imo) was his belittling of women's health concerns when it comes to abortion. Can you see him putting men's health concerns in litlte finger quotes and dismissing that as some far left radical agenda? (And John, that "agenda" happens to be the agenda of the United States Supreme Court and the Law of the Land ... not some far left radical plot. You, Sir, are a DickWad and, may I add, a FvckTard to boot.)

Gemini Cricket · 10-16-2008, 06:54 AM

I'm sorry, but f*ck Joe the Plumber.

Re: Obama

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"And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance... Almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr," he said.

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Speaking to Fox News, Mr Wurzelbacher said Mr Obama's plan to raise taxes to redistribute money was "kind of a socialist viewpoint".
"Robin Hood stole from greedy rich people and redistributed it to the peasants, so to speak, so if he's calling us peasants, I kind of resent that," he said.

Uh, did Obama compare himself to Robin Hood? Or is this Joe's analogy? It sounds to me that Joe is calling himself a peasant and blaming Barack for it.
Source

Not to mention that Joe isn't even in the income bracket Obama is talking about.

Quote:

COURIC: Well, he supposedly will raise taxes only on people who make over $250,000 a year. Would you be in that category?

WURZELBACHER: Not right now at presently, but, you know, question, so he's going to do that now for people who make $250,000 a year. When's he going to decide that $100,000 is too much, you know? I mean, you're on a slippery slope here. You vote on somebody who decides that $250,000 and you're rich? And $100,000 and you're rich? I mean, where does it end? You know, that's - people got to ask that question.

Source

Strangler Lewis · 10-16-2008, 06:52 AM

In fairness to McCain, his shorthand comment about women's health was reasonably legitimate and speaks to the attempts to expand the health exception to include mental health, emotional health, etc. The format did not permit an extended discussion, but he could have done a far better job of flagging the issue than he did.

So maybe Obama didn't wipe the floor with McCain. McCain did. He certainly kept sticking mop handles up his butt and handing them to Obama.

10-15-2008, 08:30 PM	#3
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	With Obama riding into Jerusalem on it. RELAX!!!!! It's a joke.
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10-15-2008, 08:49 PM	#5
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	"Health" in finger quotes. What an azshat. I think that's gonna cost him. De womenz ain't gonna like that.
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	McCain said "Freddie Mae". I know that drag queen. She's fabulous.
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10-16-2008, 04:54 AM	#7
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Joe the plumber has made his thoughts on the Obama tax plan known in no uncertain terms.
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10-16-2008, 06:44 AM	#8
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	The reason the polls always tilt toward Obama even when, as happened last night, McCain does reasonably well ... is that more people just plain like Obama's demeanor and what he has to say better. A debate is won or lost on more than just "points." McCain got angrier and testier as the debate wore on. He may have been more controlled this time, but his 'tude is obnoxious and viewers don't like it. The section about their respective campaigns did McCain no good. His protestations to the contrary, public perception is that his campaign is far more negative than Obama's. And perception is everything. Obama pwnzored him about Bill Ayers and ACORN, and McCain looked like a fool when he just wouldn't let it go. But, yeah, most damaging (imo) was his belittling of women's health concerns when it comes to abortion. Can you see him putting men's health concerns in litlte finger quotes and dismissing that as some far left radical agenda? (And John, that "agenda" happens to be the agenda of the United States Supreme Court and the Law of the Land ... not some far left radical plot. You, Sir, are a DickWad and, may I add, a FvckTard to boot.)
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10-16-2008, 06:52 AM	#10
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	In fairness to McCain, his shorthand comment about women's health was reasonably legitimate and speaks to the attempts to expand the health exception to include mental health, emotional health, etc. The format did not permit an extended discussion, but he could have done a far better job of flagging the issue than he did. So maybe Obama didn't wipe the floor with McCain. McCain did. He certainly kept sticking mop handles up his butt and handing them to Obama. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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