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scaeagles · 10-16-2008, 06:54 AM

I wish he'd put out some "men's" health concerns.

One reason helth care is so much more expensive is stuff that never used to be possible to treat. Now we have viagara being covered but no one wants their premiums to go up as more and more things are covered. That's but one example, but you get the idea.

scaeagles · 10-16-2008, 06:57 AM

GC, Joe the Plumber understands, as the WSJ pointed out in great detail, the Obama is LIEING about his tax cuts for the middle class. Also, the whoel Robin Hood thing is exactly what's going on. Obama is going to tax the wealthy more to give money to those who don't even pay federal income taxes. This is not even in question. You may not like the analogy, but it is certainly accurate. He wants to take more from the wealthy and give it to those who pay any federal income taxes.

Gemini Cricket · 10-16-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

GC, Joe the Plumber understands, as the WSJ pointed out in great detail, the Obama is LIEING about his tax cuts for the middle class.

I'm sorry, Joe is sounding racist to me. And Joe is making up stuff and saying that Obama is calling him a peasant.

Joe's not making $250,000. So how does his situation apply to Obama's proposal? He's bringing up a hypothetical and then blasting Obama for it. "Well, he may lower that." We don't know if that's the course he's going to take on a tax cut that hasn't been implemented yet. At this point, you could say Obama will do a thousand things.

Joe is one man with one opinion whose head has been inflated for the world to see like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon by McCain.

And if we want to talk about the WSJ, uh, which way does that paper lean? They say Obama is lying. Well I have to do is find one publication that says the opposite to counter your WSJ argument, Leo.

innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Joe's not making $250,000. So how does his situation apply to Obama's proposal? He's bringing up a hypothetical and then blasting Obama for it.

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Originally Posted by Cool Considerate Men - 1776

But don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor ... and that is why they will follow us, to the right, ever to the right, never to the left, forever to the right.

In other words, most people are fracking idiots ... and hence the unfathomable popularity of conservativism.

scaeagles · 10-16-2008, 07:22 AM

The WSJ link I posted lays out exactly what his plan entails. Either it does or it doesn't. If you dispute what it says, fine.

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is? A tax cut means you pay less taxes. Obama now defines it as giving money to people who have paid no fdederal income taxes.

Gemini Cricket · 10-16-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is?

Oy. You missed my point.
See above.
Again. This is Joe the Plummer on Obama:

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"And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance... Almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr," he said.

I find that to be a underhanded, insulting comment directed at Obama.
If he didn't mean it that way, he needed to think about what it would sound like.
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On the lighter side of the debate: (SFW)

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Snowflake · 10-16-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

"And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance... Almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr," he said.

SFW and kinda disturbing, too.

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Snowflake · 10-16-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

The WSJ link I posted lays out exactly what his plan entails. Either it does or it doesn't. If you dispute what it says, fine.

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is? A tax cut means you pay less taxes. Obama now defines it as giving money to people who have paid no fdederal income taxes.

Jeez read the comments, yikes, Americans at their finest.

innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is?

GC already pointed out what you apparently missed, but I'm repeating it because I'm astounded by what a tin ear you seem to have. Apparently, Joe the Plumber's ears are equally tin (or perhaps copper would be more appropriate). In any event, he clearly wasn't ready for the prime time suddenly foisted upon him, and did not take careful consideration to how his words would sound .... or, alternatively, he's an unabashed racist.

But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.

Joe's an azshat for saying it ... and I'm rather shocked you simply glossed over it, scaeagles, and professed not to understand what was racist about Joe's remarks.

Moonliner · 10-16-2008, 08:20 AM

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But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

How in the hell is that racist?

10-16-2008, 06:54 AM	#1
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I wish he'd put out some "men's" health concerns. One reason helth care is so much more expensive is stuff that never used to be possible to treat. Now we have viagara being covered but no one wants their premiums to go up as more and more things are covered. That's but one example, but you get the idea.
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10-16-2008, 06:57 AM	#2
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	GC, Joe the Plumber understands, as the WSJ pointed out in great detail, the Obama is LIEING about his tax cuts for the middle class. Also, the whoel Robin Hood thing is exactly what's going on. Obama is going to tax the wealthy more to give money to those who don't even pay federal income taxes. This is not even in question. You may not like the analogy, but it is certainly accurate. He wants to take more from the wealthy and give it to those who pay any federal income taxes.
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10-16-2008, 07:22 AM	#5
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	The WSJ link I posted lays out exactly what his plan entails. Either it does or it doesn't. If you dispute what it says, fine. He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is? A tax cut means you pay less taxes. Obama now defines it as giving money to people who have paid no fdederal income taxes.
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