The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 380

scaeagles · 11-13-2008, 08:14 AM

The whole Africa is not a continent thing is now a proven hoax.

Funny how SO many stories about Palin are immediately assumed to be true. I realize Palin isn't a story any longer, but I do think it is necessary - required, I might suggest - to retract things that were stated about her that are proven false.

wendybeth · 11-13-2008, 09:14 AM

Scaeagles, so far as I know the only hoax aspect of the story (thus far) is when MSNBC was duped into reporting the name of the supposed source behind the Africa story. They quickly did an on-air correction. Fox was the outlet that broke the original story, and I've yet to see any retraction from them.

alphabassettgrrl · 11-13-2008, 10:48 AM

Yes, I'd like to hear retractions of incorrect information. Other than that, though, I'm not really interested. She doesn't have any idea where she's planning to go now, other than returning to her governorship, so there's not really a story. If and when she decides to run for something else, then ok.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-13-2008, 10:50 AM

Speaking of her political future, absentee ballots are being counted in Alaska...and Ted Stevens has lost his lead. Challenger, Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, now has a slim 814 vote lead at last report.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-13-2008, 03:33 PM

Obama Resigns!!

from the Senate

scaeagles · 11-13-2008, 04:34 PM

There was a NY Times story on it. Didn't find that one quickly, but here's on from the Business Times that quotes the NY Times story.

Alex · 11-13-2008, 05:04 PM

I don't know who is right (and it doesn't really matter, I don't believe Sara Palin didn't know Africa isn't a single country, though she certainly may have misspoke in a way used maliciously).

But the version I read (and wendybeth was referencing) is that this Martin Eisenstadt was not the source for the original Fox News story. But rather he was lying when he told the NYTimes and MSNBC that he was.

So, in other words, whoever the Fox News source was, it hasn't been proven false.

That's all very confusingly worded.

So example with names:

Bobby tells Greg at Fox News that Palin is an idiot. Greg goes on TV and says "a source" says Palin in an idiot.

Peter goes to the New York Times and MSNBC and convinces them that he is a McCain operative and that he was the source for Greg's story on Fox News.

Investigation reveals that Peter is lying. So the Bobby --> Greg connection is untarnished. Though not necessarily any less partisan and spiteful. Of course, this all highlights the trouble you run into when you use anonymous sources lightly and for no good reason, as this original story does.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-13-2008, 06:05 PM

Newsflash!

Jr. High School Kids are jerks with narrow views on the world!

From the Duh! Network.

alphabassettgrrl · 11-14-2008, 12:03 AM

How random.

Alex · 11-14-2008, 11:12 AM

Though when she dies I'm not sure how anybody will know the difference. I doubt she'll stop talking.

11-13-2008, 08:14 AM	#1
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	The whole Africa is not a continent thing is now a proven hoax. Funny how SO many stories about Palin are immediately assumed to be true. I realize Palin isn't a story any longer, but I do think it is necessary - required, I might suggest - to retract things that were stated about her that are proven false.
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Scaeagles, so far as I know the only hoax aspect of the story (thus far) is when MSNBC was duped into reporting the name of the supposed source behind the Africa story. They quickly did an on-air correction. Fox was the outlet that broke the original story, and I've yet to see any retraction from them. __________________
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alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Yes, I'd like to hear retractions of incorrect information. Other than that, though, I'm not really interested. She doesn't have any idea where she's planning to go now, other than returning to her governorship, so there's not really a story. If and when she decides to run for something else, then ok. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Speaking of her political future, absentee ballots are being counted in Alaska...and Ted Stevens has lost his lead. Challenger, Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, now has a slim 814 vote lead at last report. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Obama Resigns!! from the Senate __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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11-13-2008, 04:34 PM	#6
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	There was a NY Times story on it. Didn't find that one quickly, but here's on from the Business Times that quotes the NY Times story.
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11-13-2008, 05:04 PM	#7
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I don't know who is right (and it doesn't really matter, I don't believe Sara Palin didn't know Africa isn't a single country, though she certainly may have misspoke in a way used maliciously). But the version I read (and wendybeth was referencing) is that this Martin Eisenstadt was not the source for the original Fox News story. But rather he was lying when he told the NYTimes and MSNBC that he was. So, in other words, whoever the Fox News source was, it hasn't been proven false. That's all very confusingly worded. So example with names: Bobby tells Greg at Fox News that Palin is an idiot. Greg goes on TV and says "a source" says Palin in an idiot. Peter goes to the New York Times and MSNBC and convinces them that he is a McCain operative and that he was the source for Greg's story on Fox News. Investigation reveals that Peter is lying. So the Bobby --> Greg connection is untarnished. Though not necessarily any less partisan and spiteful. Of course, this all highlights the trouble you run into when you use anonymous sources lightly and for no good reason, as this original story does.
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11-13-2008, 06:05 PM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Newsflash! Jr. High School Kids are jerks with narrow views on the world! From the Duh! Network. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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11-14-2008, 12:03 AM	#9
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	How random. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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11-14-2008, 11:12 AM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Though when she dies I'm not sure how anybody will know the difference. I doubt she'll stop talking.
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