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3894 · 01-12-2011, 01:32 PM

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“Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.” - Sarah Palin

It turns out that the term "blood libel" has a sordid past.

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"The allegations behind blood libel originate in the Middle Ages when Jews were falsely accused of ritualised murder, in particular the murder of children. The allegations were used to justify violence against Jews." - Source is BBC

Giffords is Jewish. Why the choice of "blood libel" by Palin, do you think?

SzczerbiakManiac · 01-12-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

She was one of the Democratic representatives targeted by Palin's PAC's infamous gun-sight ad.

Have you seen this?

JWBear · 01-12-2011, 01:38 PM

Ghoulish Delight · 01-12-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 3894

It turns out that the term "blood libel" has a sordid past.

Giffords is Jewish. Why the choice of "blood libel" by Palin, do you think?

She was within a hair's breath of saying something cogent, level-headed, and meaningful. Good thing she threw that in there to keep her track record in tact.

Gn2Dlnd · 01-12-2011, 11:21 PM

So, I listened to the memorial while I was in my truck earlier - WTF was with the whooping and hollering and cheering? Did no one tell these neanderthals that they were attending a MEMORIAL?

Arizona sucks.

innerSpaceman · 01-13-2011, 08:16 AM

Yeah, that was kinda odd. But it was in a college auditorium, and not a cemetery - and the President is kinda a rock star. But still, I found it a tad inappropriate.

That all stopped once Obama started speaking. I thought his remarks were pitch-perfect and typically wonderful. I cried like a baby during the segment where he detailed the lives and loves of the dead. If there were any more stringent points I'd like him to have made addressing violent political rhetoric, I understand him skirting the issue deftly and with the high-mindedness appropriate to the occasion and his own particular temperament.

Yet without stooping to the meanness of meaning to, he sure made mincemeat of Sarah Palin in yesterday's unofficial Statesmanship 101 face-off.

If only more of a presidency's success depended on being a wonderful orator, Obama would be one of the best pressies evar. Still, for the many times the job requires such soothing and inspiring speaking skills, we certainly elected the right man for the job.

I truly hope our country does one day meet our children's expectations, as the president so eloquently exhorted at his speech's end ... but I fear we don't have enough time left as a nation to achieve anything like that goal.

Still ... Obama's urgings to do the best we can were welcome reminders, and I hope some good may yet come from this terrible tragedy.

3894 · 01-13-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yeah, that was kinda odd. But it was in a college auditorium, and not a cemetery - and the President is kinda a rock star. But still, I found it a tad inappropriate.

Well said, iSm. They were even clapping and cheering for Bible verses.

Was John McCain there? I didn't see him.

Alex · 01-13-2011, 11:22 AM

I'll admit that I find the entire idea of a mass gathering to allow for the public display of grieving by people who (mostly) didn't know any of the people being grieved to be an odd construct.

But since I seem to be alone in that I just assume that is my brokenness and odd relationship with death. So to me the standing ovations (I was watching at the gym with the sound off) didn't seem to stretch that much. it wasn't until I heard soundbites this morning that I realized just how much clapping there was. Did notice that from his pacing at least Obama's speech didn't seem to have been written with the expectation of there being applause lines.

innerSpaceman · 01-13-2011, 12:16 PM

I heard this morning that Loughner was stopped by police just before arriving at his shooting spree, for running a red light. Wow, that's some terrible irony there. You don't get hauled in for running a light, but woah ... he was technically in police quasi-custody for a moment there - - - before he killed 6 and wounded 20. Yikes.

Alex · 01-13-2011, 12:30 PM

Not sure what "right before" includes but it was not him on the way to shoot her, it was earlier in the morning. In between he went home and eventually took a cab to the Safeway.

But yeah, that Fish & Game officer but be wracking his brain on whether there was anything he missed that could have been an excuse to detain him.

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Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	So, I listened to the memorial while I was in my truck earlier - WTF was with the whooping and hollering and cheering? Did no one tell these neanderthals that they were attending a MEMORIAL? Arizona sucks. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, that was kinda odd. But it was in a college auditorium, and not a cemetery - and the President is kinda a rock star. But still, I found it a tad inappropriate. That all stopped once Obama started speaking. I thought his remarks were pitch-perfect and typically wonderful. I cried like a baby during the segment where he detailed the lives and loves of the dead. If there were any more stringent points I'd like him to have made addressing violent political rhetoric, I understand him skirting the issue deftly and with the high-mindedness appropriate to the occasion and his own particular temperament. Yet without stooping to the meanness of meaning to, he sure made mincemeat of Sarah Palin in yesterday's unofficial Statesmanship 101 face-off. If only more of a presidency's success depended on being a wonderful orator, Obama would be one of the best pressies evar. Still, for the many times the job requires such soothing and inspiring speaking skills, we certainly elected the right man for the job. I truly hope our country does one day meet our children's expectations, as the president so eloquently exhorted at his speech's end ... but I fear we don't have enough time left as a nation to achieve anything like that goal. Still ... Obama's urgings to do the best we can were welcome reminders, and I hope some good may yet come from this terrible tragedy.
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01-13-2011, 11:22 AM	#38
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'll admit that I find the entire idea of a mass gathering to allow for the public display of grieving by people who (mostly) didn't know any of the people being grieved to be an odd construct. But since I seem to be alone in that I just assume that is my brokenness and odd relationship with death. So to me the standing ovations (I was watching at the gym with the sound off) didn't seem to stretch that much. it wasn't until I heard soundbites this morning that I realized just how much clapping there was. Did notice that from his pacing at least Obama's speech didn't seem to have been written with the expectation of there being applause lines.
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01-13-2011, 12:16 PM	#39
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I heard this morning that Loughner was stopped by police just before arriving at his shooting spree, for running a red light. Wow, that's some terrible irony there. You don't get hauled in for running a light, but woah ... he was technically in police quasi-custody for a moment there - - - before he killed 6 and wounded 20. Yikes.
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01-13-2011, 12:30 PM	#40
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Not sure what "right before" includes but it was not him on the way to shoot her, it was earlier in the morning. In between he went home and eventually took a cab to the Safeway. But yeah, that Fish & Game officer but be wracking his brain on whether there was anything he missed that could have been an excuse to detain him.
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