"They blew up their poster boy"

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

I did not say all. So there is zero point in contesting that point. It was libs who celebrated, not all, but it was certainly not the conservatives who did so.

Try to see it the other way though.

"Conservative christians are the ones that danced and spit on Matthew Shepards grave."

That isn't a true statement even though an ultra-religious nutjob like Fred Phelps picketed his funeral, holding a sign that said "God Hates Fags."

It doesn't matter that you did or didn't say "all". It is still offensive because it suggests that this is a typical view and I contend that it isn't, regardless of what a few idiots on a message board say.

I don't think it is fair to compare someone like this to someone who happens to be liberal.

Edited to add: geez, you guys are quick in your posting.

[mousepod]

The conservatives created a war using lies as justification. The conservatives lured young idealistic Americans to fight in that war. The conservatives killed their own soldiers without the help of enemy combatants. The conservatives covered up their own terrible and deadly mistake. The conservatives made up a brand new lie to make themselves look good.

The conservatives are pathetic bullies who make broad statements about the character of people who hold different opinions. The conservatives call an honest defense of such character smears as "disctractions and redirections." Who the heck do the conservatives think they are?

[Nephythys]

Not denying anything, nor agreeing with all- you guys are still doing it. You are tap dancing so fast I can't keep up. You won't actively condemn those who did so, despite my facts that, as I said, back the assertion. You are trying to distract, reframe and refuse to adress the issue.

Amazing- isn't it? So busy with your boomerang antics, you can't even discuss what I did bring to the table.

Bottom line- certain groups and people, all associated with the liberal idealogy, were happy to grave dance when Tillman was killed, but with a new target being a gov't who covered things up? Suddenly Tillman is truly a victim, before he was a buffoon who deserved what he got.

[Prudence]

And what exactly would you like us to discuss? I believe it's already been mentioned that yes, there are nutty people out there who lack compassion and use the pain of others for their own gain.

[BarTopDancer]

What exactly did you bring to the table besides perceived generalizations?

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by mousepod

The conservatives are pathetic bullies who make broad statements about the character of people who hold different opinions. The conservatives call an honest defense of such character smears as "disctractions and redirections." Who the heck do the conservatives think they are?

It was the so called "Conservative Fox News" that was quoted in the OP of this thread

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

It was the conservatives who danced and spat on the graves of the blacks and jews killed by the KKK.

Robert Byrd is a conservative?

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Not denying anything, nor agreeing with all- you guys are still doing it. You are tap dancing so fast I can't keep up. You won't actively condemn those who did so, despite my facts that, as I said, back the assertion. You are trying to distract, reframe and refuse to adress the issue.

Amazing- isn't it? So busy with your boomerang antics, you can't even discuss what I did bring to the table.

The conservatives killed him. The conservatives covered it up. Some misguided people who the conservatives label "the liberals" wrongly said that "he got what was coming to him." These individuals are sad and incorrect. They are also angry because the conservatives like to do bad things and then obfuscate the truth. One way the conservatives do that is by pointing fingers and generalizing. You you you you you.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Not denying anything, nor agreeing with all- you guys are still doing it. You are tap dancing so fast I can't keep up. You won't actively condemn those who did so, despite my facts that, as I said, back the assertion. You are trying to distract, reframe and refuse to adress the issue.

I wasn't aware that a condemnation of these individuals would be necessary. I don't think that Tillman is any more or any less special than any of the soldiers over there who gives their life for our country. Of course the death of a soldier is tragic. The lie that liberals don't care about the soldiers just isn't true though, no matter how many times those on your side try to spin it that way and it is quite offensive to some of us.

And I don't see any tap dancing here. I see a post that can be easily construed as a sweeping generalization, intended or not. I see posters taking exception with that. If a sweeping generalization isn't what you were implying, perhaps you could choose your words more carefully. That is all we have to go by.

[Tref]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

now you turn on me.

Turn on you? Ahh, yes, now I remember why I stay out of these things ...

Anyhoo, I read a few of your links, Neph old girl. And you're right, these are some angry folks. They are angry because their government lied to them. They are mad because this lie has resulted in the deaths of thousands of people. THOUSANDS. Including the aforementioned former football player, former soldier, former living, breathing, human being.

Neph, I understand your anger, but, just like the writers you've included in your links, I think its a misplaced anger. Its not the liberals you should be angry with, but the people who took this chap away from his family so to be used as cannon fodder. And for what? To bring democracy to the Middle East?

Its all very sad to me. My advice, stay away from the Drudge report and Fox News. Life isn't really split between the Liberals and the Conservatives. They just want you to believe that. I suppose it gives them somebody to blame and takes your focus away from the important things.

In a few days you'll feel better. I promise.