Fate and Destiny: a philosophy thread - Page 4

innerSpaceman · 12-16-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Jack

I could throttle you.

Woke up @ 3:33 am this morning...saw it, thought of your post and started laughing....rendering me even more awake.

The night following my 5:55 experience, I awoke at 3:21. It was like seeing a countdown, but a countdown to what? As used to I am to the clock experience, and as much as I can rely on it not to be a one-night-only thing, it never ceases to startle me into awakeness ... and the 3,2,1 countdown got to me more than most.

It did not repeat the third night. Unusual, but not unprecedented. They mostly come in threes (hmmm, maybe it's a Wicca thing), but one time happened for 7 straight days. A few times, it's just a pairing - which is what this latest bout seems to have been.

It never feels creepy (like what waking up at precisely 3:00 meant in 'The Exorcism of Audrey Rose), but it never fails to bring sudden and unwanted wakefulness.

Besides demonstrating (I think) that there are no coincidences, WHAT IN HELL DOES IT MEAN????!?!

Ghoulish Delight · 12-16-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

... but it never fails to bring sudden and unwanted wakefulness.

Hmm, so you're saying you reach a certain bare minimal level of consciousness, enough to turn your head and look at the clock, and then once you see the mysterious numbers, you are then jolted into a more conscious state? Ever consider the possibility that you reach that first state several times a night and failing to see a time that matches your coincidence, just roll over and go back to sleep, never reaching a high enough state of consciousness to remember it?

Cadaverous Pallor · 12-19-2005, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Hmm, so you're saying you reach a certain bare minimal level of consciousness, enough to turn your head and look at the clock, and then once you see the mysterious numbers, you are then jolted into a more conscious state? Ever consider the possibility that you reach that first state several times a night and failing to see a time that matches your coincidence, just roll over and go back to sleep, never reaching a high enough state of consciousness to remember it?

Mystery solved

Kevy Baby · 12-16-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

...WHAT IN HELL DOES IT MEAN????!?!

It could your subconcious attempting to communicate with your concious self and relay some important truism about your life and destiny.

Or it could just be that you are having trouble sleeping through the night.

It's a mystery.

Capt Jack · 12-17-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Besides demonstrating (I think) that there are no coincidences, WHAT IN HELL DOES IT MEAN????!?!

kinda like being trapped in some sorta freaky 'Lost' episode, isnt it?

this mornings was 5:55 am

Ghoulish Delight · 12-14-2005, 02:35 PM

I'm fascinated with coincidences and have come to no conclusions regarding their relative importance. Natural result of the infinite combination of events ocurring around us at all times? Outcropping of our internal need to project order on the chaotic world? Unconscious shaping of our environment to our own thoughts? Picking up on as-to-yet unkown information that's out there? God intervening? Consequence of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle? I'd believe any of it.

Whatever the inherent meaning, or lack there of, they sure are fun to pay attention. Like this weekend when I suddenly remembered I had to call my mom...only to get a busy signal because she was dialing my number at the exact same moment...only to hang up with her and have CP immediately call to remind me to call my mom. Or the countless times my mind wanders to thoughts of someone I haven't seen or thought about in years, only to have them appear (either in person or in the form of news of their whereabouts) within the next day.

Fab · 12-15-2005, 12:32 AM

Having returned to the Catholic Church in the seventeen years since I last posted here, I do believe in God, Mary, etc. but my leanings are more Socialist Rebel Pagan Roots Gnostic Mary Magdalene was the true head of the church after Christ type. Fortunately, I have a Radical Socialist Priest from the Philippines as my confessor, who laughs himself into tears every time I stroll into the Confessional.

But there is one thing: I think God is "only human" and does make mistakes. It's the only way I can accept everything else that's happened.

scaeagles · 12-15-2005, 09:32 AM

To which part?

Killing a few cats would make it appealing to me.

I guess it would depend on who was running around naked.

Blood letting? I suppose it depends on who was bleeding.

Not Afraid · 12-15-2005, 11:03 AM

One day I'll stop contemplating this question and write about it.

I guess there are certain things that are unknowable to me and that's fine with me. I just try to keep taking steps in the right direction and the rest will become evident.

In regards to Karma, well, there may be a "Karma Police" but I'm not on the force. I let them do their job and keep to what I can "control".

But, I'm sure there's more going on in that minefield of a brain of mine.

CoasterMatt · 12-15-2005, 11:47 AM

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In regards to Karma, well, there may be a "Karma Police" but I'm not on the force. .

What about the Dream Police?

12-14-2005, 02:35 PM	#6
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'm fascinated with coincidences and have come to no conclusions regarding their relative importance. Natural result of the infinite combination of events ocurring around us at all times? Outcropping of our internal need to project order on the chaotic world? Unconscious shaping of our environment to our own thoughts? Picking up on as-to-yet unkown information that's out there? God intervening? Consequence of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle? I'd believe any of it. Whatever the inherent meaning, or lack there of, they sure are fun to pay attention. Like this weekend when I suddenly remembered I had to call my mom...only to get a busy signal because she was dialing my number at the exact same moment...only to hang up with her and have CP immediately call to remind me to call my mom. Or the countless times my mind wanders to thoughts of someone I haven't seen or thought about in years, only to have them appear (either in person or in the form of news of their whereabouts) within the next day. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Fab Señora Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 124	Having returned to the Catholic Church in the seventeen years since I last posted here, I do believe in God, Mary, etc. but my leanings are more Socialist Rebel Pagan Roots Gnostic Mary Magdalene was the true head of the church after Christ type. Fortunately, I have a Radical Socialist Priest from the Philippines as my confessor, who laughs himself into tears every time I stroll into the Confessional. But there is one thing: I think God is "only human" and does make mistakes. It's the only way I can accept everything else that's happened.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	To which part? Killing a few cats would make it appealing to me. I guess it would depend on who was running around naked. Blood letting? I suppose it depends on who was bleeding.
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	One day I'll stop contemplating this question and write about it. I guess there are certain things that are unknowable to me and that's fine with me. I just try to keep taking steps in the right direction and the rest will become evident. In regards to Karma, well, there may be a "Karma Police" but I'm not on the force. I let them do their job and keep to what I can "control". But, I'm sure there's more going on in that minefield of a brain of mine. Last edited by Not Afraid : 12-15-2005 at 11:12 AM.
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