Presidents' Day Poll

[wendybeth]

Not Snappy Jo?

[sleepyjeff]

^Yeah, he could cry on que and...no, wait...that was someone else

[innerSpaceman]

I ended up voting for JFK after all. As a three-year-old at the time, I was blessed with only good feelings about him, and have been left with the legacy of his great words ... without any personal knowledge of al the crappy stuff he did.

Clinton also had some great words ... but he governed like a staunch Replublican (and thus I could never understand their loathing of him.)

So I changed my vote.



There have been some pretty suckwad presidents in my lifetime.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Clinton also had some great words ... but he governed like a staunch Replublican (and thus I could never understand their loathing of him.)

He was a master at stealing Republican ideas and claiming them his.....The conservative in me was happy about this but the partisan in me hated him for it.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

He was a master at stealing Republican ideas and claiming them his.....The conservative in me was happy about this but the partisan in me hated him for it.

Well, that seems kinda petty. He governed precisely as conseravatives would have it ... what bloody difference does it make in the scheme of things what he said about it (or, for that matter, what Congressman he phoned while getting blown in the Oval Office)??

For that matter, he talked the talk of a liberal progressive, but governed quite the opposite. It's Dems who by rights should be pissed at what came from his mouth, and Republicans who should rejoice at what came from his pen.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Well, that seems kinda petty. He governed precisely as conseravatives would have it ... what bloody difference does it make in the scheme of things what he said about it (or, for that matter, what Congressman he phoned while getting blown in the Oval Office)??

For that matter, he talked the talk of a liberal progressive, but governed quite the opposite. It's Dems who by rights should be pissed at what came from his mouth, and Republicans who should rejoice at what came from his pen.

Well, for one, he wasn't always conservative; especially those first two years before he had a Republican Congress.

You're right though, why were more Dems not angrier about this?

Why are Dems not happy about the current President, who, in many repsects, is more liberal than Clinton?

Sometimes partisanship just trumps ideaology, as insane as that sounds.

[Kevy Baby]

He has been obliterated. Not just banned - he is way gone.

[Morrigoon]

Were they really combined that long ago? I seem to remember celebrating separate holidays as a kid...

Damn I miss that. That's what made February so special was two 3-day weekends in a row.

[Babette]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Were they really combined that long ago? I seem to remember celebrating separate holidays as a kid...

Damn I miss that. That's what made February so special was two 3-day weekends in a row.

That's right, baby! I am off for Monday #2 Gotta love public school.

I vote for Josiah "Jed" Bartlet. Can't wait to see what Santos does for the country, next. Oh, wait, that was The West Wing.

You'd think that as a 5th grade teacher I'd have a civic minded reason for my choice, but I guess I have the best naive childhood presidential memories of Carter. He was a peanut farmer and I loved peanut butter. What more could a little girl ask for in a president? Plus, he wore jeans. Although, he was president that hot summer Ubergeek & I had to sit in long gas lines with the black vinyl seats. Was that Carter's fault or economic backlash from Ford or even Nixon?

Yes, I think I am back to Bartlet.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Babette

Although, he was president that hot summer Ubergeek & I had to sit in long gas lines with the black vinyl seats. Was that Carter's fault or economic backlash from Ford or even Nixon?

Neither oil crisis had much to do with who was president at the time.

The 1973 oil crisis was a real oil shortage and came about because of the Yom Kippur War between Israel and the surrounding Arab worlds. As punishment, the Arab nations cut off oil exports to countries that had supported Israel (initially just the U.S. and the Netherlands since Arabs particularly hate country names that contain "the" but it slowly expanded to others).

The 1979 crisis (the one you remember) was more ephemeral since actual oil supply only fell a little bit after the Iranian Revolution. But there was a market panic.