The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 418

wendybeth · 02-02-2009, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

And less silly glasses.

Yeah, that too.

scaeagles · 02-03-2009, 11:48 AM

I guess WB can be happier now - Daschle has withdrawn.

Guess he didn't want to be shown up by the other tax cheat that withdrew.

sleepyjeff · 02-05-2009, 11:59 AM

Quote:

"Every month that we do not have an economic recovery package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs. I don't think we can go fast enough to stop that."

~Nancy Pelosi

So much for trading fear for Hope.

SacTown Chronic · 02-05-2009, 12:12 PM

Sounds like a Bush-ism, but if Palin had said it I suppose the response would be, "The fvck you doing in Washington, Sarah? You have no business there".

Ghoulish Delight · 02-05-2009, 12:35 PM

I hate Pelosi.

Alex · 02-05-2009, 01:10 PM

It is a stupid gaffe but I think the record will show that I generally don't find obvious verbal slips all that interesting as conversation fodder unless I have reason to believe they represent an actual lack of knowlege.

I have no reason to believe that Nancy Pelosi really believes that 500 million people would lose their jobs a month. So either it was a simple slip of the tongue (though even 500,000 would be an exaggeration of truth) or she was intentionally speaking hyperbolically (which I doubt).

If Bush had said the same thing I would have the same response. If Palin had said the same thing I think I would have the same response. But she did frequently show herself truly uninformed so I'd wonder more.

But I do agree that the hue and cry would have switched polarity.

Moonliner · 02-05-2009, 02:12 PM

There are days where I think these things are analogous to a magician's hand gestures. "Look over here! Ignore what the other hand is doing".

scaeagles · 02-05-2009, 04:30 PM

I think the real fear is coming from Obama right now, not Pelosi's stupid gaffe. Obama is saying if this (ridiculous) 900 billion dollar spending (not stimulus, spending) bill isn't passed that we may never recover.

alphabassettgrrl · 02-05-2009, 05:09 PM

He shouldn't be saying it quite so black-and-white. We will recover, even without the spending bill. Just will take longer.

Alex · 02-05-2009, 05:36 PM

I believe the intent of his statement was that if it takes too long things will have degraded beyond the ability of any action to cause recovery. Not that there would never be a recovery.

But that isn't what he said. And if that is what he meant, then unless he is relying on an economic theory with which I am not familiar (certainly a possibility) it is unlikely to be true (though if the global financial network and unbacked fiat currencies truly did break down completely we'd probably be looking at a couple centuries before recovery happened in any meaningful way).

Anyway, if nothing else it is good to see that the Republican side of the party has so quickly realized that ramming through government action on the back of overhyped fear is a bad thing. Overracting out of economic fear is a nice change of pace from overreacting because a brown person might know the atomic weight of uranium.

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02-05-2009, 01:10 PM	#4176
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	It is a stupid gaffe but I think the record will show that I generally don't find obvious verbal slips all that interesting as conversation fodder unless I have reason to believe they represent an actual lack of knowlege. I have no reason to believe that Nancy Pelosi really believes that 500 million people would lose their jobs a month. So either it was a simple slip of the tongue (though even 500,000 would be an exaggeration of truth) or she was intentionally speaking hyperbolically (which I doubt). If Bush had said the same thing I would have the same response. If Palin had said the same thing I think I would have the same response. But she did frequently show herself truly uninformed so I'd wonder more. But I do agree that the hue and cry would have switched polarity.
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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	There are days where I think these things are analogous to a magician's hand gestures. "Look over here! Ignore what the other hand is doing". __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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02-05-2009, 04:30 PM	#4178
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I think the real fear is coming from Obama right now, not Pelosi's stupid gaffe. Obama is saying if this (ridiculous) 900 billion dollar spending (not stimulus, spending) bill isn't passed that we may never recover.
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alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	He shouldn't be saying it quite so black-and-white. We will recover, even without the spending bill. Just will take longer. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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02-05-2009, 05:36 PM	#4180
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I believe the intent of his statement was that if it takes too long things will have degraded beyond the ability of any action to cause recovery. Not that there would never be a recovery. But that isn't what he said. And if that is what he meant, then unless he is relying on an economic theory with which I am not familiar (certainly a possibility) it is unlikely to be true (though if the global financial network and unbacked fiat currencies truly did break down completely we'd probably be looking at a couple centuries before recovery happened in any meaningful way). Anyway, if nothing else it is good to see that the Republican side of the party has so quickly realized that ramming through government action on the back of overhyped fear is a bad thing. Overracting out of economic fear is a nice change of pace from overreacting because a brown person might know the atomic weight of uranium.
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