The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 426

Gemini Cricket · 06-04-2009, 01:00 PM

Cheney's is finally admitting there's no link between 9/11 and Iraq. But now he's blaming it all on Richard Clarke. Uh, isn't that the guy who was repeatedly warning them about an attack?

WTF?

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Moonliner · 06-04-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Cheney's is finally admitting there's no link between 9/11 and Iraq. But now he's blaming it all on Richard Clarke. Uh, isn't that the guy who was repeatedly warning them about an attack?

WTF?

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But, Cheney always lies. So if he says there was no link.... But there can't be a link.... but he said..... Arrruuugghhh!!!! *pop*

Alex · 06-04-2009, 01:03 PM

Jon Stewart settled that last night. Turns out he was blaming the host of American Bandstand.

Gemini Cricket · 06-04-2009, 01:04 PM

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Jon Stewart settled that last night. Turns out he was blaming the host of American Bandstand.

That's funny. I'm watching that right now on Hulu.

Ghoulish Delight · 06-04-2009, 02:06 PM

Snowflake · 06-04-2009, 10:35 PM

Well, I thought President Obama's speech in Cairo today was amazing.

scaeagles · 06-05-2009, 05:55 AM

Some of it was laugh out loud funny.

"America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings."

Umm....excuse me? Islamic countries are the top human rights violaters in the world. Try taking a Bible into Saudi Arabia or seeing what happens to a woman walking down the street with her head uncovered. Tolerant? I'm sorry. Guess that's not funny. That's disgusting.

As a disclaimer, I was just as disgusted when the Bush administration would kiss up to the Saudis.

I also find it funny that it's OK now for Obama to embrace his Islamic roots...having grown up for a while in primarily Islamic nations and even saying his father was Islamic. Let someone mention that during the campaign and they were immediately excorriated.

Snowflake · 06-05-2009, 08:05 AM

Well Leo, I appreciate your viewpoint. Maybe I'm just an optimist at heart but I found a good deal of the speech inspiring, not perfect, but still I'm hopeful.

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So long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sow hatred rather than peace, those who promote conflict rather than the cooperation that can help all of our people achieve justice and prosperity. And this cycle of suspicion and discord must end.

Of course both sides in the US can take this to heart, as well. When I read the above I thought of Dick Cheney immediately. But that's just me.

innerSpaceman · 06-05-2009, 08:19 AM

I didn't hear the speech. But i assume he was talking about the principals of Islam, and not the results of governments in Islamic countries ... just as American principals should hardly be judged by the 90% of U.S. government results.

Snowflake · 06-05-2009, 01:01 PM

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I didn't hear the speech. But i assume he was talking about the principals of Islam, and not the results of governments in Islamic countries ... just as American principals should hardly be judged by the 90% of U.S. government results.

iSm, if you are insterested the transcript is here. I did not see the speech, only read it. Otherwise, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Cheney's is finally admitting there's no link between 9/11 and Iraq. But now he's blaming it all on Richard Clarke. Uh, isn't that the guy who was repeatedly warning them about an attack? WTF? Source
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Jon Stewart settled that last night. Turns out he was blaming the host of American Bandstand.
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Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Well, I thought President Obama's speech in Cairo today was amazing.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Some of it was laugh out loud funny. "America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings." Umm....excuse me? Islamic countries are the top human rights violaters in the world. Try taking a Bible into Saudi Arabia or seeing what happens to a woman walking down the street with her head uncovered. Tolerant? I'm sorry. Guess that's not funny. That's disgusting. As a disclaimer, I was just as disgusted when the Bush administration would kiss up to the Saudis. I also find it funny that it's OK now for Obama to embrace his Islamic roots...having grown up for a while in primarily Islamic nations and even saying his father was Islamic. Let someone mention that during the campaign and they were immediately excorriated.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I didn't hear the speech. But i assume he was talking about the principals of Islam, and not the results of governments in Islamic countries ... just as American principals should hardly be judged by the 90% of U.S. government results.
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