The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 438

SacTown Chronic · 08-19-2009, 09:53 AM

I don't know about that cult business, JWBear, but the willingness of the Republican party's Unsilent Minority to knowingly disseminate incorrect information in order to keep the grass-roots minions scared and angry is disturbing. The right-wing media machine is the greatest threat to our collective intelligence since MTV.

JWBear · 08-19-2009, 11:00 AM

Agreed.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-19-2009, 02:09 PM

Congress Deadlocked Over How To Not Provide Health Care

Tom · 08-19-2009, 03:50 PM

I know we all were secretly hoping it would happen...

the Whigs are back.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-19-2009, 04:12 PM

Intriguing indeed.

On the healthcare front, Robert Reich is batsh*t crazy.

Robert Reich calls for 'march on Washington' in support of public option

Here's the part that is astounding to me:

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“Very few things happen in Washington that are in the public's interest when corporations have huge financial stakes in the game, as they obviously do with health care — unless the public is actively involved, engaged and organized,” Reich wrote. “We won't get a public option, or anything close to it, unless people who feel strongly about it make a racket.”

So let me get this straight - To protect the "public's interest" against the corporations' competing desire to protect their "huge financial stakes in the game", you, Mr. Right, propose that the public stand up and make a racket to protect the corporations' huge financial stakes in the game? Did I follow that correctly????

Alex · 08-19-2009, 04:20 PM

I'm not sure I'm understanding you (or at least your recap of what Reich said).

Ghoulish Delight · 08-19-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I'm not sure I'm understanding you (or at least your recap of what Reich said).

Yeah, my bad. I, in fact, did not follow that correctly.

I was thinking of it as, "Public Option" vs. "Completely socialized option' (e.g. single payer), rather than "Public Option" vs. "Don't do sh*t". I retract.

Alex · 08-19-2009, 04:33 PM

Just one correction, "completely socialized" is not "single payer." Completely socialized is single payer/single provider.

(I only care to correct since so many people are pretending that what is being proposed is the latter when nobody in any position to possibly accomplish anything in America is actually advocating for it.)

Ghoulish Delight · 08-19-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Just one correction, "completely socialized" is not "single payer." Completely socialized is single payer/single provider.

(I only care to correct since so many people are pretending that what is being proposed is the latter when nobody in any position to possibly accomplish anything in America is actually advocating for it.)

Yeah yeah, I know, that was a rushed retraction else I would have been more precise. I should have said "public option" vs "no more private health insurance".

scaeagles · 08-19-2009, 05:05 PM

I still think Reich is crazy for the most part, but not for that statement.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Just one correction, "completely socialized" is not "single payer." Completely socialized is single payer/single provider. (I only care to correct since so many people are pretending that what is being proposed is the latter when nobody in any position to possibly accomplish anything in America is actually advocating for it.)
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