A Prop 8 challenge for swankers

[Kevy Baby]

Minor detail (and sorry for playing the devil's advocate here). Without looking into the specifics (and relying on my oft faulty memory), I believe that the churches skirted the issue by encouraging their MEMBERS to donate. Again, I am probably wrong somehow, just thinking out loud.

[Gemini Cricket]

I just got an email from Love Honor Cherish. They are conceding the passage of Prop 8.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Yes, most news sites have given it the check mark.

I didn't have time to print my sign up this morning. And I'm not dumb enough to use a company printer for that. It'll have to go up tomorrow.

[Ghoulish Delight]

If you hear of any in OC, let us know.

[Chernabog]

PROTEST DEMONSTRATION AGAINST PROP 8 TONIGHT AT 7PM AT SAN VICENTE AND MELROSE



SPREAD THE WORD WIDELY



OUR FIGHT FOR OUR EQUALITY, DIGNITY AND FULL CITIZENSHIP IS FAR FROM OVER



LET THIS DEFEAT ENERGIZE US TO TAKE ACTION - REACH OUT - BUILD STRENGTH ACROSS COMMUNITIES



WE CANNOT LAY DOWN IN DEFEAT - WE MUST STAND UP AND FIGHT


San Vicente Blvd, between Santa Monica Blvd and Melrose Avenue will be closed tonight starting at 6 pm. San Vicente south-bound traffic will be directed to make left or right at Santa Monica Blvd. Signs have already been posted to help divert traffic.

For more information about tonight's rally, please contact (323) 848-6460.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Have fun at your rally. If you get some sort of venting enjoyment out of it, that's fine. I will not be attending the futility.

Ya see, when somebody's imaginary friend tells them that fâggots aren't worth shït, there's really nothing intelligent, open-minded people can do (including protesting) to sway them. The only thing we can hope for is that these fücktards will eventually die off and people who can actually think will prevail.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Ya see, when somebody's imaginary friend tells them that fâggots aren't worth shït, there's really nothing intelligent, open-minded people can do (including protesting) to sway them. The only thing we can hope for is that these fücktards will eventually die off and people who can actually think will prevail.

I think it's more of a way to a) vent and b) try and get it out of your system to mentally move on and regroup for the next marriage battle (and there will be many many more, as long as people continue to believe that their magical sky fairy should control other people's lives, we need to be there to meet that battle).

It is not to change anyone's minds, but a way to process the crushing blow we have been dealt. I am having a very difficult time today comprehending how to deal with people, particularly Mormons and Christians. They are misguided bigots who are either too stupid to think for themselves or too chickensh!t to stand up to a church that they know is hurting people.

I do know that any respect that I had for them -- they can find their own path to God as long as it doesn't hurt me -- is obviously over. I just can't tell who the good people are and the bad people are just from walking down the street, y'know?

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

I am having a very difficult time today comprehending how to deal with people, particularly Mormons and Christians. They are misguided bigots who are either too stupid to think for themselves or too chickensh!t to stand up to a church that they know is hurting people.

I do know that any respect that I had for them -- they can find their own path to God as long as it doesn't hurt me -- is obviously over. I just can't tell who the good people are and the bad people are just from walking down the street, y'know?

Worse than that, for me (as I alluded to last night), I have some good friends who are good people AND Mormons ... and I'm gonna have a hard time telling their obviously good side from their obviously bad side during the future times of our relationships.

In any case, if I can get out of my previous obligation for this evening, I'd like to attend the rally to, yes, process some of my distressing feelings today. I'd certainly like to process them in a more healthy and releasing way than I have so far (which this morning involved a scalding hot shower of water and tears, and a razor blade when the soap was not enough to wash away the disgusting filth I felt.)


Hmmm, maybe I need psychotherapy instead.


And of course, I'm mindful of LPSE and Tom's story last night of meeting the day after their 2004 crushing election defeat and falling in love.


Yes, hmmm, rally in WeHo.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Have fun at your rally. If you get some sort of venting enjoyment out of it, that's fine. I will not be attending the futility.

Ya see, when somebody's imaginary friend tells them that fâggots aren't worth shït, there's really nothing intelligent, open-minded people can do (including protesting) to sway them. The only thing we can hope for is that these fücktards will eventually die off and people who can actually think will prevail.

The only way things change is if people stand up and are counted.

Every person attending the rally means one more number to add to the headline the next day. Every sign placed means that more people are forced to consider their positions again. Sitting back and accepting a fate of inequality will only result in more inequality.

Fight, fight, fight, otherwise nothing ever changes.

[Stan4dSteph]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

It is not to change anyone's minds, but a way to process the crushing blow we have been dealt. I am having a very difficult time today comprehending how to deal with people, particularly Mormons and Christians. They are misguided bigots who are either too stupid to think for themselves or too chickensh!t to stand up to a church that they know is hurting people.

I do know that any respect that I had for them -- they can find their own path to God as long as it doesn't hurt me -- is obviously over. I just can't tell who the good people are and the bad people are just from walking down the street, y'know?

That's a hurtful generalization. I don't live in CA, so I couldn't vote on Prop 8, but I would have voted no. I am also a Christian.