The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 457

Motorboat Cruiser · 09-10-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

My younger kids do not have the critical thinking skills necessary to disagree on abstract concepts with their teacher.

Assuming that you have shared your religious views with your children, did you wait until they were the age of being able to disagree with abstract concepts, or did you feel that they had the critical thinking skills necessary to absorb such a topic?Or, is it only things that you disagree with that you think they cannot handle? I smell a double-standard.

Besides, there were really no abstract concepts contained within this speech for anyone to disagree with. The President of the United States gave a motivational speech to all students, urging them to work hard and stay in school, to better their future and contribute to their community. And it amazes me that any Republican would find fault with any of that. Of course, I doubt that they really do. Rather, they need to keep demonizing him from every conceivable angle, because should he succeed at any of the stuff he is trying to accomplish, their chances in 2010 and 12 are shot. That's really what this all boils down to.

scaeagles · 09-10-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Assuming that you have shared your religious views with your children, did you wait until they were the age of being able to disagree with abstract concepts, or did you feel that they had the critical thinking skills necessary to absorb such a topic?Or, is it only things that you disagree with that you think they cannot handle? I smell a double-standard.

Besides, there were really no abstract concepts contained within this speech for anyone to disagree with. The President of the United States gave a motivational speech to all students, urging them to work hard and stay in school, to better their future and contribute to their community. And it amazes me that any Republican would find fault with any of that. Of course, I doubt that they really do. Rather, they need to keep demonizing him from every conceivable angle, because should he succeed at any of the stuff he is trying to accomplish, their chances in 2010 and 12 are shot. That's really what this all boils down to.

Are you seriously equating what I as a parent would choose to impart as far as values to my children at a young age and what the public school teacher might choose to impart? Wow. I am really floored by that. You think it a double standard that as I parent I want to pass along my religious thinking (as well as other things) to my children but don't want teachers to pass along their moral and religious thinking to them? Seriously....that is mind boggling.

And I'll try it again. You'll note that after I read the speech I said I had no objections to it in and of itself. My concern was the guided lesson about the President and his speech afterwards. So your second paragraph is way off base....at least if you were directing it toward me.

BarTopDancer · 09-10-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I do not think there was a situation for me to worry about with agendas being "pushed" in an organized fashion with lesson plans provided to teachers by the administration. So no, I wasn't concerned about it.

But you just said you were. Unless you were referring to my question if you would have the same paranoia if it was "your guy" in office.

scaeagles · 09-10-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

But you just said you were. Unless you were referring to my question if you would have the same paranoia if it was "your guy" in office.

I was referring to the paranoia comment about "my guy". Sorry I wasn't clear.

Betty · 09-10-2009, 08:10 AM

Neither of my kids watched the speech at school. huh.

innerSpaceman · 09-10-2009, 10:16 AM

Ok ... so why aren't you going to school with your young children on a daily basis, then? Does bias come thru only when the president gives a televised address?

innerSpaceman · 09-10-2009, 10:16 AM

So ... Joe Wilson ... what a maroon, huh?

Strangler Lewis · 09-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Interesting to learn that scaeagles, like our president, is a Muslim.

Joe Wilson was an Obama plant.

scaeagles · 09-10-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Interesting to learn that scaeagles, like our president, is a Muslim.

HA! Funny. I replaced the "as a Muslim" with "was a Muslim" above.

scaeagles · 09-10-2009, 10:25 AM

Of course bias can come through on a regular basis. I don't claim to be able to protect them from everything (nor should I). However, when something comes through like this that has (at least to me) very obvious opportunities to push political bias, I don't know why any parent wouldn't want to have an opportunity to be involved.

And yeah, Wilson gacked. Big time.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Of course bias can come through on a regular basis. I don't claim to be able to protect them from everything (nor should I). However, when something comes through like this that has (at least to me) very obvious opportunities to push political bias, I don't know why any parent wouldn't want to have an opportunity to be involved. And yeah, Wilson gacked. Big time.
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