Lost!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

AhHa! This breakdown totally made it clear to me where you and CP are coming from. It makes sense now and I totally see your point. Esau is a random character. For some reason I kept thinking you guys had an issue with 'young Jacob'.

Ah, cool! Sorry about the confusion. It's Esau that sucks. Young Jacob, meh (good looking tho), but Esau, boo.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

We are near the end of the series. You can't come out in the last 10 min of a play and introduce characters. It's invalidates what you've been watching. You build a story so people can feel involved, you don't just add and add and then it ends suddenly.

Quick, name one character from Jules Verne's The Mysterious Island?

Spoiler:

You probably said Captain Nemo, a character who didn't appear in that book until it was almost......pause for effect....5/6th of the way in

It's also lazy. As they said on the Simpsons at the end of the Lord of Flies spoof...."and they're eventually rescued by.....oh let's say Moe."

I agree with this observation, the entire finale did have a sorta Deus ex machina sort of feel to it....from Bernard/Rose/Vincent being "retired" to Juliet changing her mind about an H-bomb based on a glance

Originally Posted by JWBear

It's not like they just made him up. He's been there all along and the witters have been giving us clues. It's just that no one read the clues for what they were and figured it out.

Perhaps, but I sort of get the feel that the writers placed the clues before they really knew what they were clues for.

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

AhHa! This breakdown totally made it clear to me where you and CP are coming from. It makes sense now and I totally see your point. Esau is a random character. For some reason I kept thinking you guys had an issue with 'young Jacob'.

What if it turns out that "Esau" goes by the name Aaron?

[BarTopDancer]

So when did the statue (speculation is that it is either Sobek or Taweret) fall? And did the fall of the statue begin the fertility problems women were having? Or did the "incident" start those? When was Ethan born?

Not my original ideas, it's floating around the web.

Here is a good link.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

So when did the statue (speculation is that it is either Sobek or Taweret) fall? And did the fall of the statue begin the fertility problems women were having? Or did the "incident" start those? When was Ethan born?

Ethan was conceived and born on the island. Had to have been since Juliette, who delivered him, had been there for 3 years when he was born. So unless Horace and Amy went off island at some point, which was not shown, Ethan must have been conceived and born there.[/quote]

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

So when did the statue (speculation is that it is either Sobek or Taweret) fall? And did the fall of the statue begin the fertility problems women were having? Or did the "incident" start those? When was Ethan born?

Not my original ideas, it's floating around the web.

Here is a good link.

Between those two I'd lean towards Sobek...Taweret is a female god I believe and Egyptian Goddesses didn't wear short skirts(they wore long dresses) like our statue...but the male gods did.

As for what happened to the statue to cause it to fall......got me, maybe the H-Bomb or maybe moving the Island or maybe the breaking of the world(no wait, that last one is a wheel of time thing... )

[Stan4dSteph]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Between those two I'd lean towards Sobek...Taweret is a female god I believe and Egyptian Goddesses didn't wear short skirts(they wore long dresses) like our statue...but the male gods did.

I already posted about Sobek. Nice to see that no one is reading my posts.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph

I already posted about Sobek. Nice to see that no one is reading my posts.

I am! I remember that but I couldn't remember who posted it and I didn't search. I'll go stand in the corner and bow my head in shame.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

I just don't know.....If Whatever happened really always happened then why:


1)Charlotte, right before she died, told Faraday that he(Faraday) came up to her when she was a child and in a scary way told her to leave the Island and never come back? Now, he is dead and so far all we've seen is him talk to her in a calm(not scary) voice to leave the Island with her mother.....nothing was said about never coming back. Perhaps Faraday, in a small way, changed things even before setting off the H-bomb.

If you were a 4 year old child and a man you didn't know came up to you and told you to leave the only home you've ever known, that would be scary. I seem to remember him making her cry, because he was crying. Either that, or sloppy writing.

2)Did Faraday, biggest advocate of WHH, after 3 years of intense study off Island, come to the conclusion that things can be changed?

Here's a classic LOST cop out for ya - he was wrong.

3)Did Ben, right after Alex was killed, say Widmore changed the rules?

This has nothing to do with the timeline because Ben hadn't traveled through time. He just had supposed rules with Widmore which Widmore broke. No real explanation for "the rules" yet, but it may have something to do with the passing of Others leadership from Widmore to Ben.

4)Did Mrs Hawking go thru the bother of making sure Desmond took a certain path if he had always taken that path?

This is easy. The only reason he always takes that path is because Mrs Hawking always makes sure he does.

5)Do Charlie, Claire, Ana Lucia, Libby, and maybe even Christian keep popping up? Could it be that they are still alive in a Universe where the plane doesn't crash on the Island and that is why Charlie said to Hurley "Iam dead, but I am also here"???

Sure. Or a dozen other options. Here are some easy ones. 1. They are inhabited by Jacob, 2. They are inhabited by Esau, 3. They are inhabited by Locke's ghost, 4. Hurley talks to the dead but in a different way than Miles does, 5. The island won't let them go to the afterlife, as it is a very needy island...

Any other questions? I'd love to make up more answers. As the show has shown that they can do anything they want, I can make up any theory I want and it is just as viable as what actually happens. So I no longer have any trouble with inconsistencies.

[BarTopDancer]

Didn't Juliette deliver him when they went back in time? Does that mean that she delivered him even though she wasn't brought to the island until he was an adult? The time loop is going to do me in.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Didn't Juliette deliver him when they went back in time? Does that mean that she delivered him even though she wasn't brought to the island until he was an adult? The time loop is going to do me in.

Yes. She delivered him after she (and Sawyer, and Miles, and Jin) had been living with the others for 3 years.