All About McCain

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I can't help but think that if the Democrats nominated a black woman to be vice president and it turned out her teen daughter was pregnant and the boyfriend was quoted saying the kind of macho things one would expect a black teen to say that there would not be this outpouring of sentiment from the conservative family values crowd.

Maybe, but you can also be sure that those same people who are so outraged(mock or otherwise) by the daughter of a Republican daring to get pregnant would be jumping down the throats of any conservative who questioned the "judgement" of this fictional candidate

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I can't help but think that if the Democrats nominated a black woman to be vice president and it turned out her teen daughter was pregnant and the boyfriend was quoted saying the kind of macho things one would expect a black teen to say that there would not be this outpouring of sentiment from the conservative family values crowd.

Try again:

If the Obamas had a 17 year-old daughter who was unmarried and pregnant by a tough-talking black kid, my guess is if that they all appeared onstage at a Democratic convention and the delegates were cheering wildly, a number of conservatives might be discussing the issue of dysfunctional black families.

And THAT is from an editorial at National Review.

[Ghoulish Delight]

McCain ads flat out lie about Obama's tax plan.

Personally, I'm no fan of Obama's tax plan. It's a feel-good tax cut that is going to just increase our deficit.

But disagreeing with the plan is one thing. Flat out lying to people about what the plan would do is pathetic.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

McCain ads flat out lie about Obama's tax plan.

Personally, I'm no fan of Obama's tax plan. It's a feel-good tax cut that is going to just increase our deficit.

But disagreeing with the plan is one thing. Flat out lying to people about what the plan would do is pathetic.

McCain pulled this kind of crud against Romney...it was wrong then and it's wrong now. (Have I mentioned before how much I really dislike this guy and hate that I am going to have to vote for him?)

That being said; does anyone seriously think Obama intends to follow thru on his tax pledge?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

That being said; does anyone seriously think Obama intends to follow thru on his tax pledge?

I hope not.

[scaeagles]

Along the lines of how she can be a good mom and care for the newborn....why was it never an issue that John Edwards had a cancer stricken wife? Edwards was lauded for being able to juggle so many things, and whether he was a good husband or not never came into play. While I'm sure that the argument will be that she is an adult while Trig is an infant, I'd point out that Palin isn't alone and has a husband who is perfectly capable of caring for the child.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'd point out that Palin isn't alone and has a husband who is perfectly capable of caring for the child.

A husband whom she promised would quit his job to do so, but didn't.

And yes, there is a huge difference between taking care of an adult recovering from cancer (they do not need 24 hr. supervision or help wiping their ass) and taking care of a developmentally disabled infant.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Along the lines of how she can be a good mom and care for the newborn....why was it never an issue that John Edwards had a cancer stricken wife?

Actually I'm in agreement with you on that one.

[scaeagles]

And if you throw in the Edwards was taking care of a mistress and a newborn as well it's even more amazing how he could juggle it all!

[JWBear]

Excuse me if this incoherent rambling doesn't make sense. I'm doped-up on cold medicine, and marshaling my thoughts right now is like herding cats.

The Republican party in general, and the religious right in particular, try to project an image of "holier-than-thou" moral superiority. So when a Republican politician has a little indiscretion, it appears to the rest of us as hypocrisy and laughably ironic. The Democratic party has never claimed to be superior when it comes to "family values" morality, so when a Democrat screws-up (sometimes literally) that hypocrisy and irony aren't there. They never claimed that moral superiority.

Everybody's human. Everybody fvcks up (I hate that filter thing). But, we also take a perverse pleasure in watching the mighty fall - especially if they fall in a way that highlights their hypocrisy.

McCain was very poor judgment. He picked a relative unknown for his VP without a thourough investigation in to her background. And now it's coming back to bite him on the ass.

Ooo.... Bacon!