The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 479

Alex · 09-21-2009, 02:44 PM

I read that as hoping that mildly racist people would bend over backwards to avoid getting outed.

Of course, that assumes that most mildly racist people are aware of it. Which I doubt.

That said, if you can identify the specific racism then of course you should cry it as a political tool.

Gemini Cricket · 09-21-2009, 02:51 PM

The people that act like there's no racism in our country tick me off. And if one has never experienced something it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.
My 2 cents.

innerSpaceman · 09-21-2009, 03:32 PM

I used to assume most Californians were not homophobes, because I never encountered any. A certain election proved me wrong.

Don't let your limited personal experience persuade you racism in America is dead. Pfft.

scaeagles · 09-21-2009, 06:58 PM

I'm angry at a 787 billion dollar stimulus. So yeah, there's anger at things he has done. And anger at things he says he wants to do.

I find it a bit scarier that people accused Bush of planning 9/11 than anything anyone has accused Obama of thus far. And last I checked....Bush didn't plan it.

JWBear · 09-21-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'm angry at a 787 billion dollar stimulus. So yeah, there's anger at things he has done. And anger at things he says he wants to do.

I find it a bit scarier that people accused Bush of planning 9/11 than anything anyone has accused Obama of thus far. And last I checked....Bush didn't plan it.

The difference is that the people who accuse Bush of planning 9/11 didn't interrupt town hall meetings to scream their delusion, or assemble in large numbers to march on Washington, or carry guns to a presidential events. Nor did they have their own "news" channel that gave legitimacy to their paranoia.

If you are angry at the stimulus bill, then you must also be really pissed about Bush's TARP bill.

Alex · 09-21-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

The difference is that the people who accuse Bush of planning 9/11 didn't interrupt town hall meetings to scream their delusion, or assemble in large numbers to march on Washington, or carry guns to a presidential events.

While the last thing certainly is true, the truther movement was surprisingly large and established. And they most certainly did interrupt events with protests. Hell, one of them (Cynthia McKinney) was elected to congress after leading one of the major groups in the movement.

They may not have been as successful at doing so, but why pretend they were just an insignificant annoyance?

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If you are angry at the stimulus bill, then you must also be really pissed about Bush's TARP bill.

If you go back, I believe you'll find he was.

scaeagles · 09-21-2009, 08:04 PM

Indeed I was. If I am consistent on anything politically, it is fiscal conservatism. I have been a very vocal opponent of Bush and his spending.

scaeagles · 09-22-2009, 04:54 AM

Oh good lord. How is what I said that much different than your exact quote? Sheesh. Baiting? Absolutely not.

I guess this is where we vary (amongst many other things). It seems to me that you believe racism is prevalent. I don't. I do not deny it exists....speaking of baiting. I also don't believe I ever claimed that politicians don't play politics.

scaeagles · 09-22-2009, 05:50 AM

In the interests of full disclosure, it does appear as if one of the five ACORN vidoes is NOT quite as bad as it appears. Apparently one of the workers on the videos did contact police. Story

JWBear · 09-22-2009, 10:00 AM

So where is the ourage over Halliburton, Blackwater, and that company that was hired to guard the embassy in Afganistan? Billions of dollars of government money paid to companies that do far more illegal things every day than what ACORN has been accused of. Where is the right-wing outrage over that?

Oh... that's right... they are Republican owned and supported companies. My bad.

09-21-2009, 02:44 PM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I read that as hoping that mildly racist people would bend over backwards to avoid getting outed. Of course, that assumes that most mildly racist people are aware of it. Which I doubt. That said, if you can identify the specific racism then of course you should cry it as a political tool.
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09-21-2009, 02:51 PM	#2
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	The people that act like there's no racism in our country tick me off. And if one has never experienced something it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist. My 2 cents.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I used to assume most Californians were not homophobes, because I never encountered any. A certain election proved me wrong. Don't let your limited personal experience persuade you racism in America is dead. Pfft.
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09-21-2009, 06:58 PM	#4
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I'm angry at a 787 billion dollar stimulus. So yeah, there's anger at things he has done. And anger at things he says he wants to do. I find it a bit scarier that people accused Bush of planning 9/11 than anything anyone has accused Obama of thus far. And last I checked....Bush didn't plan it.
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09-21-2009, 08:04 PM	#7
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Indeed I was. If I am consistent on anything politically, it is fiscal conservatism. I have been a very vocal opponent of Bush and his spending.
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09-22-2009, 04:54 AM	#8
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Oh good lord. How is what I said that much different than your exact quote? Sheesh. Baiting? Absolutely not. I guess this is where we vary (amongst many other things). It seems to me that you believe racism is prevalent. I don't. I do not deny it exists....speaking of baiting. I also don't believe I ever claimed that politicians don't play politics.
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09-22-2009, 05:50 AM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	In the interests of full disclosure, it does appear as if one of the five ACORN vidoes is NOT quite as bad as it appears. Apparently one of the workers on the videos did contact police. Story
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	So where is the ourage over Halliburton, Blackwater, and that company that was hired to guard the embassy in Afganistan? Billions of dollars of government money paid to companies that do far more illegal things every day than what ACORN has been accused of. Where is the right-wing outrage over that? Oh... that's right... they are Republican owned and supported companies. My bad. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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