The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 48

Gemini Cricket · 05-01-2006, 05:28 AM

I watched a CNN special last night about AIDS and President Clinton was on. He spoke and took questions from the audience. I think he speaks very well. Very eloquent. I miss him a great deal.

People are saying his new portrait looks like Ted Koppel. Did anyone else hear this? I thought that was funny.

scaeagles · 05-01-2006, 06:55 AM

Hi Earkid. Hope to see more of you around here.

innerSpaceman · 05-01-2006, 07:18 AM

Hey, he was just refuting the allegation that the seizure was illegal.

It's ok to explore things further, but I hope you are not implying that SMcS has to then justify his refutation of an obvious falsehood that was posted by someone else.

scaeagles · 05-01-2006, 07:22 AM

No - not at all. I am really just curious as to what he thinks of that particular ruling. That's why I started my response to Scrooge with "True", acknowledging that, yes, indeed, that was the ruling.

Nephythys · 05-01-2006, 08:19 AM

I call BS- I guarantee you that should someone they approve of come under this kind of fire, and someone tries to sieze their private records they will be screaming bloody murder.

JWBear · 05-01-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

I call BS- I guarantee you that should someone they approve of come under this kind of fire, and someone tries to sieze their private records they will be screaming bloody murder.

Funny... I was just thinking that Rush is being vigorously defended by the same people who would be calling for the head of any left-wing pundant who did what he did.

scaeagles · 05-01-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Funny... I was just thinking that Rush is being vigorously defended by the same people who would be calling for the head of any left-wing pundant who did what he did.

You may have a point....but something tells me that after a two year investigation (that included the apprehension of his medical records) that should there have been anything they could have gotten Rush on (particularly the felonies that were mentioned by the prosecutors), there would have been no plea deal basically letting him off with nothing.

However, I will say that I find it sad whenever a Charlie Sheen (not a pundit, mind you, but in the public eye) or a Whitney Houston has repeated problems and can't seem to get over them. I believe dealers should get time, but the process of putting users in prison is pointless. Fines? OK. Rehab? Certainly. Jail time? Probably not doing anyone any good.

Plus, looking at and listening to James Carville, something tells me he's on speed.

I don't think jail time is required.

Nephythys · 05-01-2006, 09:12 AM

Maybe- maybe not. Frankly I am not sure I would be calling for the head of anyone who has a drug problem due to pain. It's called sympathy and empathy- no matter the person. Especially since I don't listen to left wing commentators much- I doubt I would know enough to want to condemn them. Other people have proven that they don't need to actually know anything accurate in order to condemn Rush.

Alex · 05-01-2006, 09:37 AM

I wouldn't call for anybody's head because I support the legalization of all drugs and consider anybody using them as engaged in an appopriate act of civil disobedience.

Is Limbaugh a hypocrite? Yes, but then we all are and there is nothing inconsistent in the idea of preaching against sin even if you are yourself a sinner. There is also nothing inconsistent in feeling that people should be punished to the fullest extent of the law possible and that the accused should still engage in the strongest defense available. Hypocrisy does not affect the validity of an argument.

Most of my problems with the story is with the D.A. who apparently was trying the case in the media and making claims that he had no support for (not even sufficient to bring an indictment which is a low threshhold). That is an abuse of the power of his office.

I don't have any problem with the examination of medical records because I disagree with the doctor-patient privilege and would like to see it abolished anyway.

wendybeth · 05-01-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Maybe- maybe not. Frankly I am not sure I would be calling for the head of anyone who has a drug problem due to pain. It's called sympathy and empathy- no matter the person. Especially since I don't listen to left wing commentators much- I doubt I would know enough to want to condemn them. Other people have proven that they don't need to actually know anything accurate in order to condemn Rush.

"Compassion is no substitute for justice."
Rush Limbaugh

I am glad to see the compassionate conservatives coming out on this subject, though.

05-01-2006, 05:28 AM	#1
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I watched a CNN special last night about AIDS and President Clinton was on. He spoke and took questions from the audience. I think he speaks very well. Very eloquent. I miss him a great deal. People are saying his new portrait looks like Ted Koppel. Did anyone else hear this? I thought that was funny.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Hi Earkid. Hope to see more of you around here.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Hey, he was just refuting the allegation that the seizure was illegal. It's ok to explore things further, but I hope you are not implying that SMcS has to then justify his refutation of an obvious falsehood that was posted by someone else.
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05-01-2006, 07:22 AM	#4
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	No - not at all. I am really just curious as to what he thinks of that particular ruling. That's why I started my response to Scrooge with "True", acknowledging that, yes, indeed, that was the ruling.
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05-01-2006, 08:19 AM	#5
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	I call BS- I guarantee you that should someone they approve of come under this kind of fire, and someone tries to sieze their private records they will be screaming bloody murder.
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05-01-2006, 09:12 AM	#8
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Maybe- maybe not. Frankly I am not sure I would be calling for the head of anyone who has a drug problem due to pain. It's called sympathy and empathy- no matter the person. Especially since I don't listen to left wing commentators much- I doubt I would know enough to want to condemn them. Other people have proven that they don't need to actually know anything accurate in order to condemn Rush.
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05-01-2006, 09:37 AM	#9
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I wouldn't call for anybody's head because I support the legalization of all drugs and consider anybody using them as engaged in an appopriate act of civil disobedience. Is Limbaugh a hypocrite? Yes, but then we all are and there is nothing inconsistent in the idea of preaching against sin even if you are yourself a sinner. There is also nothing inconsistent in feeling that people should be punished to the fullest extent of the law possible and that the accused should still engage in the strongest defense available. Hypocrisy does not affect the validity of an argument. Most of my problems with the story is with the D.A. who apparently was trying the case in the media and making claims that he had no support for (not even sufficient to bring an indictment which is a low threshhold). That is an abuse of the power of his office. I don't have any problem with the examination of medical records because I disagree with the doctor-patient privilege and would like to see it abolished anyway.
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