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Old 09-10-2009, 02:45 PM   #4881
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Problem (or not) is, by the time they reach that age your views will be so ingrained in them that they will think the other views are wrong and they won't have the tools to be able to understand that people do have different views because they won't be exposed to anyone with different views.
To the complete contrary!

I was completely immersed in certain philosophies until I went to college. I certainly do NOT share much in common with my dad.

And guiding them through different views does expose them to the fact that there are other views. We don't pretend there aren't any.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:46 PM   #4882
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I'm sure Leo's fine. I'm just trying to stoke the flames of his inner liberal fireplace.
That used to be MBC's job. I feel so....so.....rejected.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:58 PM   #4883
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I'm sure Leo's fine. I'm just trying to stoke the flames of his inner liberal fireplace.
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That used to be MBC's job. I feel so....so.....rejected.
You're mistaken, MBC was trying to get some flaming liberal inside of you. Subtle, but substantial, difference.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:15 PM   #4884
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All well and good, but, what I can't get my head around is, even before they changed the lesson plan, was it really THAT BAD? It seemed thoroughly innocuous to me, just boilerplate elementary school civics. (Heck, I was assigned to write a letter to President Nixon, along with the rest of my classmates, back in the fist grade. Pretty similar stuff - tell the president what you like best about the country, what you want to see happen in the future - I'm sure we all wrote that we wanted a longer recess and Slurpees in the school cafeteria.) If I've understood correctly, the contentious line, which was changed, was "write a letter to yourself about how you might help the president," and that even in the original version, this, in context with the surrounding material, clearly meant "help the president realize his goal of increasing the number of college graduates." Now, really, what the F is wrong with that?
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You're mistaken, MBC was trying to get some flaming liberal inside of you. Subtle, but substantial, difference.
Precisely.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:17 PM   #4886
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All well and good, but, what I can't get my head around is, even before they changed the lesson plan, was it really THAT BAD? It seemed thoroughly innocuous to me, just boilerplate elementary school civics. (Heck, I was assigned to write a letter to President Nixon, along with the rest of my classmates, back in the fist grade. Pretty similar stuff - tell the president what you like best about the country, what you want to see happen in the future - I'm sure we all wrote that we wanted a longer recess and Slurpees in the school cafeteria.) If I've understood correctly, the contentious line, which was changed, was "write a letter to yourself about how you might help the president," and that even in the original version, this, in context with the surrounding material, clearly meant "help the president realize his goal of increasing the number of college graduates." Now, really, what the F is wrong with that?
Absolutely nothing, which is what makes this outrage so silly.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:20 PM   #4887
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You're mistaken, MBC was trying to get some flaming liberal inside of you. Subtle, but substantial, difference.
From a discussion on right-wing paranoia politics to toasters.

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Old 09-11-2009, 11:06 AM   #4888
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:37 PM   #4889
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:28 PM   #4890
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