The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Alex

Yes, I believe that is generally the rationalization.

"Our reasons for hating your guy are based solidly on fact. Your reasons for hating our guy are loony loony."

I'm not denying there were solid grounds on which to dislike Bush (and Obama now). I'm just saying that the left-wing crazy-people farts don't smell any better than right-wing crazy people farts.

I'm also not denying that the right-wing crazy people farts have gone more mainstream than did the left-wing crazy people farts.

I like saying X-wing crazy people farts. This will probably disrupt future Star Wars viewings.

Sorry Alex, but I don't remember much widespread protesting of Bush at all before the Iraq war. Regardless though, the right wing craziness we see now is much more intense, and has much more support from the establishment and the MSM than the anti-Bush variety ever did. The cartoon is all about the hypocrisy in the way the two sides are treated; and in that respect, it is dead on.

[scaeagles]

I seem to remember a whole lot about Bush stealing an election. So yeah, there was a whole lot of protesting before the Iraq war. That's when the cries of dictatorship started. He didn't care about democracy, apparently.

As far as the MSM....I could go over SO much that hasn't been in the mainstream media about Obama. Some has certain validity (how much about Van Jones have you heard except that he resigned and there was some grand conspiracy to make him do so, or about ACORN videos, knowing Obama's tight ties with ACORN....please understand I DO NOT think Obama would be supportive of the ACORN people knowingly assisting people trying to set up underage prostitution rings), others I'm sure are insane.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

...ACORN people knowingly assisting people trying to set up underage prostitution rings...

Been drinking the Fox Kool-Aid again, I see.

Link

The video footage -- which has been edited and goes to black in some areas -- was recorded and posted online Thursday by James O'Keefe, a conservative activist. He was joined on the video by another conservative, Hannah Giles, who posed as the prostitute in the filmmakers' undercover sting.

Sonja Merchant-Jones, chair of Baltimore City ACORN, told CNN affiliate WMAR-TV that the fired workers were seasonal, part-time employees and that no senior ACORN staff members were in the building at the time the film was made.

"This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further," Levenson said.

Just another right-wing attempt to smear ACORN.

[scaeagles]

Yawn. I guess the entire House fell for it to, completely voting to defund them. I guess ACORN itself fell for it to, as they've dismissed (at least some, can't say if all of) those involved.

5 different offices. 5 different times. Spin it any way you want. I've watched the videos. Sham? Sure. Try expose'.

[innerSpaceman]

Yep, whether it's indicative of ACORN's policies or not (and 5?, I thought it was once in Baltimore and once in Brooklyn) ... but regardless, it's a true scandal that ACORN is going to have to pay the price for as an org that was already in the target sites of the right-wing establishment.

Frankly, they should disband and interested parties should re-form an organization with similar goals and stronger guidelines.



I daresay that infiltraitors with smearing in mind could pull such an "expose" on just about any organization with more than 30 employees anywhere in the United States (or the world, for that matter). But they got caught on video with their employees doing bad stuff ... and that's the death knell in many instances.


This is one of them.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yep, whether it's indicative of ACORN's policies or not (and 5?, I thought it was once in Baltimore and once in Brooklyn) ... but regardless, it's a true scandal that ACORN is going to have to pay the price for as an org that was already in the target sites of the right-wing establishment.

Frankly, they should disband and interested parties should re-form an organization with similar goals and stronger guidelines.



I daresay that infiltraitors with smearing in mind could pull such an "expose" on just about any organization with more than 30 employees anywhere in the United States (or the world, for that matter). But they got caught on video with their employees doing bad stuff ... and that's the death knell in many instances.


This is one of them.

Throw in San Diego, Washington, and San Bernadino.

I have no doubt that the reorganization you mention will take place.

And I agree with you that it is likely that most large organizations could be caught doing something wrong....but it doesn't get much worse than assisting with underage prostitution rings.

[mousepod]

I have no words.

[scaeagles]

Can you briefly tell us about the subject matter? I can't access youtube at work.

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Can you briefly tell us about the subject matter? I can't access youtube at work.

Absolutely. It's a video made by NewLeftMedia of several of the protesters who marched against ObamaCare in Washington on September 12.

While I know that it's clearly a partisan film, it chills me to see people spouting hateful talking points without understanding the issues that they're protesting.

[scaeagles]

Thanks.