Survivor 13: Spics vs. Chinks??? - Page 5

Jughead P. Jones · 09-14-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matterhorn Fan

Ah, good. I liked Lukas. I did NOT like Dilana.

Yeah, Lukas did blend well with Supernova...he certainly represented us Canadians well. As for Dilana, I think she probably would do better as a solo artist.

Personally, I'm surprised Toby didn't make it to the final 2. I thought he had a fighting chance as well.

(Oops...look at me, turning a Survivor thread into a Rockstar thread.

I'll stop now.

)

Matterhorn Fan · 09-14-2006, 07:56 PM

Not your fault. I'm the ultimate thread derailer. I only posted that here because I figured the people likely to watch Survivor were also likely to have been watching Rock Star.

I, too, thought Toby would have done better. Then again, I thought Dilana should have been gone a couple weeks ago. Maybe they felt like they needed to keep a girl till the end?

Oh, yeah, and Survivor. Lukas was so not on Survivor tonight.

Gemini Cricket · 09-15-2006, 04:37 AM

So, how was Survivor?

Moonliner · 09-15-2006, 04:53 AM

I'd say the voulme of posts speaks volumes about the show...

I give it a: Meh.

A few laughs, one or two standouts, I'll watch another episode or two and see if I get interested or not...

scaeagles · 09-15-2006, 05:30 AM

It never gets that interesting to me until I've gotten to know the people a bit. Too many to keep track of in the early going. In a couple of weeks I'll have stuff to say about it. The only thing I have to say is the old oriental guy is the new Shane (he was the psycho guy from last season, right?).

Stan4dSteph · 09-15-2006, 06:30 AM

I like Yul. He's a Stanford grad.

Sub la Goon · 09-15-2006, 06:36 AM

Yeah, I'd say Cowboy is some sort of Dennis Hopper / Yoda hybrid. And he wears a star of David, so he is like a hippie Vietnamese rabbi.

The rest are pretty nondescript, except for the idiot rollergirl who lost the chickens for Caucasians.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-15-2006, 08:24 AM

I like Cao Boi better than I liked Mr. Miyagi (Bruce) last season. I mean, he did cure dude's headache.

I also like the fact that he takled about not fitting the asian stereotype...but he's a nail salon manager. It does seem that with the pointed "I don't fit the stereotype" stuff, the constant "Asians eat rice"/"boat person" stuff on the raft, and the previewed Asian jokes next week that he's overcompensating just a bit.

I will say one thing for the race division...at least it means a few more non-white faces on the island. It's kinda nice to not talk about the black guy, the black chick, and the miscellaneous other person.

Alex · 09-15-2006, 09:12 AM

I found it interesting (though I'm not entirely sure in what way) that all the groups commented on the division but only the black group seemed to place a whole lot of emphasis on "representing" their race. Of course maybe they all did and it was edited down to just that tribe as standard reality show foreshadowing of the episode's result.

I was also glad that one of the Korean girls made a similar point as I did. Wihte people, for the most part, don't really care about our race. The other three tribes have a certain cultural homogeneity for differing reasons.

But my experience with Asian immigrants is that they think of themselves first as American, second as whatever their ancestral national origin is, and a distant third as "Asian." That is, because of common cultural influences a black person will probably feel some bond with another black person even if they came from opposite ends of Africa genetically.

But Koreans, Philipinos, and Vietnamese tend to consider themselves as separate races. Outside of academic identity politics programs I don't think there is so much an "Asian" identity.

Whereas as the block identification for black Americans is much stronger because of the historical record. It would have been very interesting (to me, anyway) to have included an African immigrant on the show, someone who has not been part of that block identification.

Another thing of interest to watch will be how the speech styles of the individual groups (but mostly the black tribe) change when the merge happens. (And not that isn't some kind of insult; I am completely accepting of African-American Vernacular English as a dialect of the language.)

Stan4dSteph · 09-15-2006, 10:08 AM

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Another thing of interest to watch will be how the speech styles of the individual groups (but mostly the black tribe) change when the merge happens. (And not that isn't some kind of insult; I am completely accepting of African-American Vernacular English as a dialect of the language.)

I thought this too. The African-American group seemed freer in what they said as a group than I've observed on previous Survivors where tribes were mixed.

I also think there will be some friction in the Asian tribe, because Cao Boi appears to see himself as closer to his Vietnamese roots, whereas he commented that the others have lost touch with their identities.

09-14-2006, 07:56 PM	#42
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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	I'd say the voulme of posts speaks volumes about the show... I give it a: Meh. A few laughs, one or two standouts, I'll watch another episode or two and see if I get interested or not... __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	It never gets that interesting to me until I've gotten to know the people a bit. Too many to keep track of in the early going. In a couple of weeks I'll have stuff to say about it. The only thing I have to say is the old oriental guy is the new Shane (he was the psycho guy from last season, right?).
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I like Cao Boi better than I liked Mr. Miyagi (Bruce) last season. I mean, he did cure dude's headache. I also like the fact that he takled about not fitting the asian stereotype...but he's a nail salon manager. It does seem that with the pointed "I don't fit the stereotype" stuff, the constant "Asians eat rice"/"boat person" stuff on the raft, and the previewed Asian jokes next week that he's overcompensating just a bit. I will say one thing for the race division...at least it means a few more non-white faces on the island. It's kinda nice to not talk about the black guy, the black chick, and the miscellaneous other person. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ Last edited by Ghoulish Delight : 09-15-2006 at 08:29 AM.
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09-15-2006, 09:12 AM	#49
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I found it interesting (though I'm not entirely sure in what way) that all the groups commented on the division but only the black group seemed to place a whole lot of emphasis on "representing" their race. Of course maybe they all did and it was edited down to just that tribe as standard reality show foreshadowing of the episode's result. I was also glad that one of the Korean girls made a similar point as I did. Wihte people, for the most part, don't really care about our race. The other three tribes have a certain cultural homogeneity for differing reasons. But my experience with Asian immigrants is that they think of themselves first as American, second as whatever their ancestral national origin is, and a distant third as "Asian." That is, because of common cultural influences a black person will probably feel some bond with another black person even if they came from opposite ends of Africa genetically. But Koreans, Philipinos, and Vietnamese tend to consider themselves as separate races. Outside of academic identity politics programs I don't think there is so much an "Asian" identity. Whereas as the block identification for black Americans is much stronger because of the historical record. It would have been very interesting (to me, anyway) to have included an African immigrant on the show, someone who has not been part of that block identification. Another thing of interest to watch will be how the speech styles of the individual groups (but mostly the black tribe) change when the merge happens. (And not that isn't some kind of insult; I am completely accepting of African-American Vernacular English as a dialect of the language.)
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